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Winamp would win, unquestionably.
Look at the average ratings on BetaNews:
iTunes for Windows: 2.8/5
Winamp 5 Beta: 4.7/5
Look at the average ratings on BetaNews:
iTunes for Windows: 2.8/5
Winamp 5 Beta: 4.7/5
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"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Version Reviewed: 4.1.0.52
Reviewed by: patman
Date: October 17th, 2003 12:40 AM
I was really looking forward to this program, and it failed to deliver. The first thing it did was wipe everything off my Ipod as it brilliantly synced with my empty music library.. and then proceeded to crash 4 times as I tried to add music to it.
Rating: **
Version Reviewed: 4.1.0.52
Reviewed by: dragondaw
Date: October 17th, 2003 1:43 AM
This program is sad. i have 1GB of ram. with background apps running i have about 620mb left. and i still can't get to the music store when i click for it. i get this error message "We could not complete your Music Store request. There is not enough memory available". what more does this program need? looks like it's back to Kazaa for me. without getting to the music store to reg. i can't buy anything! argh!
Rating: *
Version Reviewed: 4.1.0.52
Reviewed by: kichik
Date: October 16th, 2003 7:46 PM
I really don't like this... It works way better on the Mac. On Windows it takes a lot of memory (40MB for just playing an MP3), wastes many CPU cycles (10% just for playing MP3s and 40-50% when browsing the online store), it is slow (just try scrolling some window), songs skip (probably just my old computer but it's not that's slow... I have P3 800mhz and 512MB or RAM) and the download is 19MB! The way I see it, this iTunes version is a bloated and sluggish beta. I wish I could say it's my computer's fault, but similar results were seen even on high end PCs (2+ GHz with 1GB DDR RAM).
Rating: *
Seems I am not alone.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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And we won't even mention Apple's proprietary DRM that they refuse to license out in AAC...
When did Apple ever say that they refuse to license out Fairplay? I think you're fibbing again, you naughty boy.KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!Comment
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How am I fibbing? Just because Apple doesn't issue a press release saying they won't license it doesn't mean it's not true.
Why do you think the Nomads, iRivers, Rios, Samsungs, etc. all don't support AAC? Because the only point to supporting AAC would be to support iTunes, and the whole point of the music store is to get people to buy iPods, and Apple won't license out their DRM to other hardware makers simply because it defeats the purpose of their money-losing store.
It's simple business..."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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Just because Apple doesn't issue a press release saying they won't license it doesn't mean it's not true.
You said, and I quote...
And we won't even mention Apple's proprietary DRM that they refuse to license out in AAC...
How can they have "refused" to license Fairplay out if they've never addressed the subject? I can't find a statement by Apple saying that they refuse to license it out, so unless you come up with something I'll just have to assume you're lying yet again.KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!Comment
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AAC is the successor to MP3 plain and simple because of it's higher compression ratio. This means that your music will sound much better at 128kbps AAC than at 128kbps MP3.
WMA is a proprietary standard from Microsoft, while AAC is an open standard just like MP3, and history shows us that the open standards usually win.
HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17Comment
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Oh, one other thing. Both MP3 and AAC were invented by the same company. AAC comes from the MP4 codec, so that's proof positive that AAC is indeed the successor to MP3.
HAVE A DAY.
<--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
"And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17Comment
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mp3, aac, and wma suck.
ogg vorbis all the way!!B♭3Comment
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How can they have "refused" to license Fairplay out if they've never addressed the subject?
Are you really making this silly argument, Drake? You can refuse to license out something by simply not licensing it out... you don't have to issue a press release and usually you don't want to.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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MP3, AAC, and WMA are all proprietary standards. OGG is an open standard.Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
AAC is the successor to MP3 plain and simple because of it's higher compression ratio. This means that your music will sound much better at 128kbps AAC than at 128kbps MP3.
WMA is a proprietary standard from Microsoft, while AAC is an open standard just like MP3, and history shows us that the open standards usually win.
And AAC isn't the successor to MP3, MP3 Pro is.
WMA and AAC are both far more advanced than MP3, unfortunately WMA is more advanced than AAC and also far cheaper.
WMA is the cheapest of the three to use, AAC is the most pricey, and MP3 is in the middle.
That's the reason all of the DVD, CD, etc. players coming out support WMA rather than AAC.
In addition to AAC costing the most to license for portable MP3 players, the AAC files Apple uses use their proprietary DRM which means they won't play on standard AAC players. The portable audio players won't pay for and add AAC support when basically the only market for AAC is iTunes, and Apple won't license out iTunes' DRM for others to use.
Hence only the iPod supports, and likely will support, AAC. Everyone else will support WMA in addition to MP3, and maybe OGG.
Apple's slowly but surely going to screw themselves out of the market with this policy, like they've done with the Macintosh."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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But then you'd expect complaints from other companies who would like to license it. So far there haven't been any.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
How can they have "refused" to license Fairplay out if they've never addressed the subject?
Are you really making this silly argument, Drake? You can refuse to license out something by simply not licensing it out... you don't have to issue a press release and usually you don't want to.Only feebs vote.Comment
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Ideally yes. But it makes no sense for AAC to be so much better than mp3 (like Nice Guy says) and for only Apple to be using it! If that is the case, then it would make sense to say that Apple is refusing to licence it out. Or, contrary, that AAC isn't really that great.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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On the Nomad newsgroup (sorry, no link), the Creative digital audio manager says they're considering adding OGG in an upcoming firmware update but Apple was not "cooperating" with licensing the AAC format used in iTunes.Originally posted by Agathon
But then you'd expect complaints from other companies who would like to license it. So far there haven't been any.
It seems, surprise surprise, that Apple doesn't want to allow other media players to play their iTunes files. After all, iTunes only loses them money -- he's made it very clear the purpose of iTunes is to get people to buy iPods.
So, really, why do you guys find it so hard to believe that Apple doesn't want to license out the iTunes AAC and DRM?"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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Has anyone used this feature for iTunes?
New Music Sharing feature
iTunes 4 has a Music Sharing feature that uses Rendezvous to give you remote streaming access to your personal music library from any room in your house. Let’s say, for instance, that you have thousands of AAC and MP3 music files stored on a mac or Windows computer in your home office. The iTunes software works so smoothly on both platforms that you can share music with any combination of Macs and Windows PCs on a local area network — regardless of whether you’re running iTunes off a Mac or PC. And you won’t have to manually configure anything, either.Comment
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It's not Apple's to license out AFAIK. What Drake is talking about is the particular DRM software called Fairplay. Not all AAC files utilise fairplay (for example, the ones you rip yourself).Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Ideally yes. But it makes no sense for AAC to be so much better than mp3 (like Nice Guy says) and for only Apple to be using it! If that is the case, then it would make sense to say that Apple is refusing to licence it out. Or, contrary, that AAC isn't really that great.
Verto: heaps of people use it. It's just a networking thing. It works very well.
Anyway, I just found out that some Win2K users who installed itunes contracted AIDS!!!!
FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD.....Only feebs vote.Comment
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