Pope says condoms are no good against HIV

[alva]

quote:
You'd take Asher's word over that of an actual physician? Are you retarded?

1. I do have an healty distrust towards any authority
2. I never said I took his word for it. A: I said 'they looked closer to the truth. B: Asher didn't make these figures up.
3. No need to go the 'you're ******' way

[Alinestra Covelia]

It's weird how a cardinal would step forwards to start telling people how to use condoms.

I mean, that strikes me like me going out and lecturing a load of physicists on quantum mechanics.

[Evil Knevil]

I think the important thing that were passing over is that, in the majority of cases, the sexual partners won't know that they're infected. Depending on the circumstances, the dormant phase for HIV can be quite long, during which time the person may unwittingly infect other partners.

This is why condoms are important, if the attitude can be changed so that condoms are the default option for sexual partners, then the number of infections will go down!

That's the flaw with what the Cardinal is saying! It condoms don't protect then, -apart from baby reasons- what is the point of couples wearing them? Because they might have HIV, fool!

Of course abstinence is the best option for people who know they're infected, in that case using a condom is like replacing a 6-barrel revolver with a 12-barrel one when playing Russian Roulette.

[Whaleboy]

That your photo in your sig Alinestra?

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Evil Knevil
I think the important thing that were passing over is that, in the majority of cases, the sexual partners won't know that they're infected. Depending on the circumstances, the dormant phase for HIV can be quite long, during which time the person may unwittingly infect other partners.

This is why condoms are important, if the attitude can be changed so that condoms are the default option for sexual partners, then the number of infections will go down!

That's the flaw with what the Cardinal is saying! It condoms don't protect then, -apart from baby reasons- what is the point of couples wearing them? Because they might have HIV, fool!

Of course abstinence is the best option for people who know they're infected, in that case using a condom is like replacing a 6-barrel revolver with a 12-barrel one when playing Russian Roulette.

Good points. There are parts fo Africa where the incidence of HIV infection among the sexually active part of the population is so high that you'd be better off assuming that everyone you might have an encounter with may have the disease.

[Evil Knevil]

That's true, but most people -sadly- don't think like that..

"Hmm, I'm not dying... I must be safe"

Then they don't bother to ask the other partner! For one thing its embarassing to many people.

[MrFun]

Young people also tend to think that they're immortal.

[DanS]

There are a lot of posts in this thread that are driven more by emotion and anti-catholicism than any real consideration of the facts.

Strangelove: Very interesting.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by elijah
That your photo in your sig Alinestra?

That's not a sig, that's an avatar. And stop staring long enough to read the location field

[alva]

Good points. There are parts fo Africa where the incidence of HIV infection among the sexually active part of the population is so high that you'd be better off assuming that everyone you might have an encounter with may have the disease.

In some parts it's even more sad in a strange way at least. In certain places in Africa HIV infection is actually going down because there is hardly anyone left to infect.

[Dis]

this is the final straw for me. I will make it my personal crusade to bring down western religions.

What's the difference between christianity and a cult? I fail to see any.

[Jon Miller]

you are not making sense

calm down and think things through a bit more

Jon Miller

[Dis]

can anyone prove to me that religions are anything more than cults?

[Jon Miller]

what do you consider a cult?

religions all started out as cults

now they are something different

Jon Miller

[alva]

In what way are they different?