Bush administration arrests former human shields.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Edan


I think it's a lot bigger than an imaginary difference. Or do you think all the pro-life protesters are breaking a law? They aren't all abortion clinic bombers, you know.

Murdering unarmed abortion doctors is not a form of self-defense, nor is it part of what MLK Jr. believed to be civil disobedience.


Pro-life fanatics who bomb buildings, assault, or murder to make their statement, are not participating in legitimate civil disobedience.

[Edan]

Originally posted by Osweld


You realize that alot of the peaceful anti-war marchs in the USA where illegal, right? They forbid them from protesting and tear gased the people who showed up anyways.

I can't account for all the anti-war marchs, but the arrests that I heard about were of protesters chaining themselves up and blocking road access - a hazard to the community and something that is illegal regardless of who was protesting and what issue and side they were protesting for.

And, of course, most protests are going to have that handful of people who are there wanting to provoke and start a fight/riot rather than peacefully protest.

[Edan]

Originally posted by MrFun



Murdering unarmed abortion doctors is not a form of self-defense, nor is it part of what MLK Jr. believed to be civil disobedience.


Pro-life fanatics who bomb buildings, assault, or murder to make their statement, are not participating in legitimate civil disobedience.

Did you not read what I wrote?!

Most pro-life protests don't murder abortion doctors. Indeed, most pro-life protesters don't do anything illegal when protesting.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Edan
And most don't do anything illegal when protesting.

They block the entrance to the clinic. I thought you just said that was illegal.

[Edan]

Originally posted by Osweld


They block the entrance to the clinic. I thought you just said that was illegal.

Most of them don't do that (at least as far as I know, most of them protest from the legally specified distance).

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Edan


Most of them don't do that.

That's the whole point of a picket line.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by skywalker
They don't differ, however, in that they both INTENTIONALLY HINDER US forces IN A WAR ZONE.

Do you specialise in repeating the same thing over and over again?



Duckspeaker...

[Edan]

Originally posted by Osweld


That's the whole point of a picket line.

Funny, and here I was thinking that the point was to express one's views and protest against something you don't agree with in a peaceful and frequently law-abiding manner.

Silly me.

[KrazyHorse]

The only hindrance they provide is a moral one. They didn't actually stop (nor could they have) anybody from doing their jobs by anything other than a simple argument: if you bomb X you kill us (or at least that's what they would have said if they hadn't pansied out).

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Edan


Funny, and here I was thinking that the point was to express one's views and protest against something you don't agree with in a peaceful and frequently law-abiding manner.

Silly me.

Silly you indeed. Aside from showing passerbys that you're there (which sometimes isn't a point at all, since it's often done in rural or industrial sectors where there is virtually no traffic). It's to deter people from entering the building and to inconveniance anyone who does try to enter the building

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Edan


Did you not read what I wrote?!

Most pro-life protests don't murder abortion doctors. Indeed, most pro-life protesters don't do anything illegal when protesting.

I read what you wrote -- just making sure you weren't justifying the murders and bombings.



But yeah -- I think pro-lifers can picket an abortion clinic as long as they are not blocking the pathway/entrance to the clinic.

And, as long as the picketers are not threatening violence to people, or damage to property.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Edan


I can't account for all the anti-war marchs, but the arrests that I heard about were of protesters chaining themselves up and blocking road access - a hazard to the community and something that is illegal regardless of who was protesting and what issue and side they were protesting for.

And, of course, most protests are going to have that handful of people who are there wanting to provoke and start a fight/riot rather than peacefully protest.

This, by the way, doesn't really have anything to do with my point. Many of the people attending the marchs where breaking the law, regardless of what they did or if they where arrested, simply being because the cities refused to allow the protests.

[Dinner]

Wow, I started this thread yesterday then went to sleep because no one was posting in it. I come back this morning and there's four pages to read.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Wow, I started this thread yesterday then went to sleep because no one was posting in it. I come back this morning and there's four pages to read.

You lazy SOB -- catch up with us.

[chequita guevara]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Bush administration arrests former human shields.

Originally posted by Edan
Funny. I thought MLK was in a democratic society.

Actually, he wasn't. He was in the South. Even when he went north, he went to the one-party city of Chicago. I'm not sure if MLK ever protested in a democratic society except during the March on Washington.