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  • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    And USC still hasn't beaten Oklahoma.


    You can't argue that they don't have a chance to beat OU though.
    True, the way OU played in the Big 12 championship Baylor might have a chance to beat them.

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    • Looks like Oklahoma fell to number 3 and Boise State beat Iowa. This means that LSU will very likely overtake USC in at least 6 of the 7 computers and become #2 in the BSC.

      At a more positive note, it wills like the Tournament of Roses will get its Big 10-Pac 10 matchup
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      and water'd heaven with their tears,
      Did he smile his work to see?
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      • Let's get this discussion started properly...

        The real national championship game will be USC v. Michigan. I don't recognize the BCS. The AP poll has always been the one that determines the champions.
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        • true, if USC wins against Michigan, it more than likely will retain its #1 ranking in the AP polls and retain at least a share of the national championship. I bet the BCS folks would love that...
          When the stars threw down their spears,
          and water'd heaven with their tears,
          Did he smile his work to see?
          Did he who made the lamb make thee?

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          • And once again the AP is biased and easily bought. The computers were put into the BCS to add some realistic level of truth to balance that out.

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            • The AP poll has always been the one that determines the champions.


              Sorry, but the coaches' poll has always been the better of the two. I'll take the opinion of the professionals over some jerkoff sportswriters any day of the week.
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              • Although Oklahoma losing like they did made the Bowl season a lot more interesting.

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                • The Coaches poll probably is the better of the two ( and they also say USC is number one) but they are obligated to vote for the BCS champ as the national champ while the writers are not.
                  When the stars threw down their spears,
                  and water'd heaven with their tears,
                  Did he smile his work to see?
                  Did he who made the lamb make thee?

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                  • True, the AP wasn't about to loose bribe money and tie their hands to teams actually playing it out on the field.

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                    • The real national championship game will be USC v. Michigan. I don't recognize the BCS. The AP poll has always been the one that determines the champions.


                      The sportswriters have ALWAYS been better than coaches, some of whom vote for teams they coached for or that they have friends in.

                      And, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

                      The BCS may have totally ****ed up its primary purpose: an undisputed national champion! If USC wins the Rose Bowl, we WILL have 2 national champions. What a travesty! Both human polls have USC ranked #1, but they don't get to play in the 'national championship' game. While I like the traditional Rose Bowl, we all know that the team that is ranked #1 by the human polls should play for the title.

                      Though I bet if USC wins, the Coaches would vote for them #1 if they could.

                      Here is hoping to a blow up of the BCS by a potential utter failure of the system. It's already failed in not having the #1 team in the AP and Coaches poll in the big game, it'll totally be a failure if there are two national champions.
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                      • It doesn't matter if the BCS is a failure. You're still not going to get the playoff you want so bad. The NCAA understands what makes college football great and won't ruin it by instituting a playoff system. The most we'll see is the addition of an optional extra game after the bowls to clear up any split national title.

                        The sportswriters have ALWAYS been better than coaches


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                        • You're still not going to get the playoff you want so bad. The NCAA understands what makes college football great and won't ruin it by instituting a playoff system.


                          Keep parrotting that line... all the way until they initiate a bigger playoff system (because, yes, the National Championship game is a playoff). It will come, the only question is when.

                          I think within the next ten years, you'll have a basic 4 team playoff where 1 plays 4, 2 plays 3, and the winners play in a National Championship Bowl the next week.

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                          And continue to roll your eyes, but the last two times there has been a split national championship the AP has gotten it right both times (1997 - Michigan, 1991 - Miami)... though they probably were wrong in 1990 (picking Colorado over GTech).
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                          • Keep parrotting that line...


                            I will. Parrotting the NCAA's view on the matter seems like a wise choice to me.

                            1997 - Michigan




                            And you expect people to take you seriously...
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                            • I will. Parrotting the NCAA's view on the matter seems like a wise choice to me.


                              Yes, because the NCAA back in 1995 foreshadowed the B(C)S . The march of history is going inexorably to a playoff system. The B(C)S was try to keep the bowls and add a bastardized somewhat playoff game. It will keep marching on.

                              And you expect people to take you seriously...


                              Yep, because Michigan would have kicked the **** out of Nebraska . They were the best team in the country that year, you homer.
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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                              • Yep, because Michigan would have kicked the **** out of Nebraska . They were the best team in the country that year, you homer.


                                Sure they were. That's why they barely beat a mediocre Washington State team in the Rose Bowl while Nebraska blew out #3 Tennessee in the Orange Bowl...
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