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  • #61
    "You can veto it's removal IIRC."

    Technically, you could scrap the underlying market regulations and programs by qualified majority. The veto is the "vital interest" veto, and political coalitions. CAP has been moved substantially from output to income support, but it's still a total mess, and it will take at least 20 years to knock some sense into it.
    “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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    • #62
      Er, sort of... I'm not a member through a constituency association so I don't have a swish one though.
      Lucky sod, they havn't even sent me one , and i am a member of a constuency association :evenmadder:


      And when i said near the beggining that UK conservatives are more conservative, i ment with a small 'c'

      Its interesting everyone associates conservatism with purley free market economics, conservatism hasn't always been about that, and there is more to it also imo....
      eimi men anthropos pollon logon, mikras de sophias

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      • #63
        I associate the UK Conservative party with moral conservatism the public school old boy network. "Family Values" and all that sick making stuff whilst behind closed doors they are all ****ging whores and/or bumming each other.
        Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
        Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
        We've got both kinds

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        • #64
          BTW, not implying there's anything wrong with the homosexual aspect, just the hypocricy of being outwardly against it whilst doing it.
          Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
          Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
          We've got both kinds

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          • #65
            The real difference is that in the US the conservative party (Republicans) get to be the government. In the UK...

            The reason is that the general political tendency in the UK seems to be to elect slightly right of centre governments. Unfortunately for the Conservative party here we have such a government and they are not it!
            Never give an AI an even break.

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            • #66
              Yeah, the Conservatives seem to basically have the same policies as Labour ('cause Blair stole most of them) but they haven't got over the fact that no-one trusts them after 18 odd years of lies.
              Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
              Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
              We've got both kinds

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              • #67
                I am not sure, I think the reason labour are in is because the thatcher years just burnt out (couldn't stay in forever!), and it was such a blow that some pieces need picking up.
                eimi men anthropos pollon logon, mikras de sophias

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                • #68
                  If they weren't so split that they can't elect a strong leader they might have a chance.
                  Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                  Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                  We've got both kinds

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Rogan Josh


                    Dear Mr. Grammar Nazi,

                    I feel an urge to pointlessly criticize your recent post complaining about Mr Oedin's 'Grammar'. First of all, it was not Mr. Oerdin's Grammar whcih was at fault, but rather his spelling. This sort of mistake can easily arise from a simple typographic error. Secondly, in ending such a missive it is more correct to end the concluding phrase with a comma, followed by "yours sincerely," with no capital letters and then the author's name, as demonstrated below,

                    yours sincerely,

                    Mr. Rogan Josh.
                    Typos are not acceptable to the Grammar Nazi.
                    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                    • #70
                      I think IDS is ok, and a strong PM is not what british politics needs right now, we've recently had to many of those.
                      eimi men anthropos pollon logon, mikras de sophias

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Park Avenue
                        Postcodes do...
                        How so? How were they to know what type of school I went to from my postcode. People go to both posh private schools (about 100 metresa from my house) and very bad state schools (about 500 metres from my house) in my postcode.
                        Smile
                        For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                        But he would think of something

                        "Hm. I suppose I should get my waffle a santa hat." - Kuciwalker

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by The Andy-Man
                          I think IDS is ok, and a strong PM is not what british politics needs right now, we've recently had to many of those.
                          Be nice to have someone who the public had heard of though. the best thing you could say about IDS is that he's 'OK' but then Blair's 'OK' so why vote for IDS?
                          Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                          Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                          We've got both kinds

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                          • #73
                            cos blair is a megalomaniac

                            IDS is the type of PM who NEEDS a good cabinet to stay afloat, and a good cabinet is worth a thousand great PM's.
                            eimi men anthropos pollon logon, mikras de sophias

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                            • #74
                              Shame all he's got to choose from is the rest of the Conservative MPs then.
                              Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                              Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                              We've got both kinds

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by MikeH
                                Shame all he's got to choose from is the rest of the Conservative MPs then.
                                they ain't all that bad. Better then some 'centre left' types, or te laternative 'raving lefty loonies'.
                                And politics is about the best of a bad bunch.
                                eimi men anthropos pollon logon, mikras de sophias

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