US Conservatism vs UK

[The Andy-Man]

I was curious wheather anybody thought there was any similarities/differences between US Style Conservatism and UK Style, or maybe they have nothing to do with each other save the fact that they used the same 'New Right' policy in the 80's.

Is there a common vain, or are they completley different things?

[GePap]

The "private over public" style of governing, in which you seek to lessen the number of services that are public, and tyring to keep spending and taxes down are one common link.

[Dinner]

The common vain is that they both seem to want smaller government, lower taxes, and believe that privite industry can do things more efficiently then the state.

[The Andy-Man]

but imo that is about the only one, apart from the new right, to me british conservatism is actually conservative.

But i would like to ehre more about wehat every one else thinks...

[Sandman]

British conservatism is stuck in the wilderness, whilst US conservatism is firmly entrenched.

[MrFun]

I believe the word is "vein" not "vain."

Sincerely,

Grammar Nazi

[Rogan Josh]

Originally posted by MrFun
I believe the word is "vein" not "vain."

Sincerely,

Grammar Nazi

Dear Mr. Grammar Nazi,

I feel an urge to pointlessly criticize your recent post complaining about Mr Oedin's 'Grammar'. First of all, it was not Mr. Oerdin's Grammar whcih was at fault, but rather his spelling. This sort of mistake can easily arise from a simple typographic error. Secondly, in ending such a missive it is more correct to end the concluding phrase with a comma, followed by "yours sincerely," with no capital letters and then the author's name, as demonstrated below,

yours sincerely,

Mr. Rogan Josh.

[FrustratedPoet]

And the bloody word is spelt "vain" anyway.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=vain

Veins are those things under your skin with blood in them.

[*End Is Forever*]

apart from the new right, to me british conservatism is actually conservative

I disagree. UK Conservatism is inherently far less conservative and right-wing than conservatism in the USA. Organisations such as CPAC (http://www.cpac.org/) are very much part of the mainstream in the States - I believe Cheney addressed their conference this year - whereas their approximate equivalents over here have long since been chucked out of the Conservative Party for their unacceptable views. Right-wing members of Conservative Way Forward (the Thatcherite wing, for whom I have little time) have travelled to CPAC and other US conservative events and been appalled.

There is a very strong core of classical liberalism within the UK Conservative Party that seemingly barely exists within the Republicans. I'm a card-carrying Tory but I'd never vote Republican in the States.

[MikeH]

Do you actually have a card?

[*End Is Forever*]

Own goal...

Er, sort of... I'm not a member through a constituency association so I don't have a swish one though.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
And the bloody word is spelt "vain" anyway.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=vain

Veins are those things under your skin with blood in them.

Yes, and "a common vein" refers to being in the same line, being similar, both moving in the same direction. Vain is a word, but the wrong one in that case. Oerdin was not refering to to the vanity of the conservatives, but to the common direction between US and UK conservatives. Sorry, I'm in smartass mode today

[FrustratedPoet]

Oh pants.

[Solly]

Conservatism is alive and well in the UK, the problem is that there is no party to represent it.

[Sava]

Conservatism is alive and well in the UK, the problem is that there is no party to represent it.

One man's conservatism is another man's Nazism.