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  • That maybe an acceptable way to solve this case.
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    • Sure it's just a recipe for making food. It's a recipe that begins: "take one leg of italian pork and prepare it under the special and unique conditions that prevale in Parma..."

      The point is, these are foodstuffs that only taste like the original creators intended them to taste if they're prepared by the original makers.
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      • yes, Yes, YES!!! Let that venom come out!


        damn, that's some silly **** to argue about.
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        • Originally posted by Oerdin


          Confuse people? I have yet to find a label more confusing then your average old world wine. A new world wine will have the verital and region of origin right on the lable while your average European wine will only have the region of origin. Therefor you know exactly what you are buying with a new world wine but with an old world wine you are gambling. You really don't know what you are buying and you're just hoping you guess right.
          I dont have to investigate the label to know that a wine with the Origin Denomination from Jerez is an excellent Wine, or Rioja, or Ribera del Duero......... If a ham has the Origin Denomination from Jabugo (Huelva, Spain) you can be sure it is simply the best in the word.
          In fact, you only have to taste it (and to pay his prize) to know where it comes from.

          On the other hand, In Spain we drink "Cava", no Champagne made in Spain.
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          • I can understand wines, because the region the grapes were grown in and the environment the wine matures in is distinctly regional. I can understand certain cheeses, because some are dependent on the concentratrations of local microbial life.

            I cannot understand the regional defense for cured meat.
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            • Originally posted by HershOstropoler
              The real fun will be about "Budweiser".
              Yes - that one will be interesting. Especially since the US Bud is deliberately trying to fool European shoppers into thinking it is the original. They have changed their labeling to be almost exactly the same as the original with just some tiny differences that you really have to look for.

              Presumably this isn't a problem in Germany though, since US budweiser will be illegal to sell there. Or is it just illegal to call it 'beer'? Anyone know? (I certainly never noticed it for sale when I lived in Germany.)

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              • Originally posted by Buck Birdseed
                Sure it's just a recipe for making food. It's a recipe that begins: "take one leg of italian pork and prepare it under the special and unique conditions that prevale in Parma..."

                The point is, these are foodstuffs that only taste like the original creators intended them to taste if they're prepared by the original makers.
                The original makers are hundreds, if not thousands, of years dead.
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                • Originally posted by Rogan Josh
                  Presumably this isn't a problem in Germany though, since US budweiser will be illegal to sell there. Or is it just illegal to call it 'beer'? Anyone know? (I certainly never noticed it for sale when I lived in Germany.)
                  Unless it's brewed under the German purity law (made of water, hop and malt and nothing else) it can't be called beer hereabouts. I have never seen the American version in our stores, only the Czech original. Not that we wouldn't taste the difference... .

                  There are btw almost no US food products in our stores. Only some Californian vinegar among French, Italian and Spanish wine. A pity, since I love American tortilla chips and all the several dips. I have to go to the american stores, but they're getting rare. Not that this would be a bad thing, though.

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                  • Originally posted by Sir Ralph
                    There are btw almost no US food products in our stores. Only some Californian vinegar among French, Italian and Spanish wine.
                    Is that why our wine routinely beats European wines even in European contests?
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                    • I understand that you have similar laws for your sausages.

                      Will you be going after Frankfurters, Weiners, and Wursts next?
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                      • Originally posted by The Mad Monk
                        I cannot understand the regional defense for cured meat.
                        The difference can be huge, even in the same country, in relative near regions. Even with the same elaboration process (b.e. in Spain Guijuelo (Salamanca) vs Jabugo (Huelva)), . You only have to taste it to know the difference. Maybe it is the pig diet, some slighty variations in pig races, climate, altitude, water, some secret in the elaboration... I dont know, there are too many factors.
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                        • Originally posted by The Mad Monk
                          I understand that you have similar laws for your sausages.

                          Will you be going after Frankfurters, Weiners, and Wursts next?
                          It's Wiener. And you'd better not give us ideas.

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                          • Wiener Whiner.
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                            • I completely agree with that measure.

                              As you know it, I'm a big Feta fan. But in today's supermarkets, it is nearly impossible to find real Feta (made of goat milk) as the supermarkets are full of fakes from cow milk. Cow milk feta tastes very differently (and very bland) in comparison to real Feta, and it is time the consumer doesn't get confused anymore.

                              While Champagne is way overrated, I understand why they defend such protection from usurping the name too. The taste of wines (at least, wines that aren't a mix from several grape species and several terrains, like they're done in France) heavily depends from the particular terrain where it comes from.
                              The Champagne region has a very different terrain and very different climatic conditions than Chile, and this particular Chilean wine is simply not the same product then (even if it uses the same methods after grapes are collected).
                              Many local products are dependent of local particular geographic features, and are not generic products. It is only normal the name of the locality gets protected to avoid confusion by the consumer.

                              I'm sure you Yanks would hate it if some local Cola brand was called "Coca Cola" while tasting different. And I'm sure you'd understand why your government will try to stop it.
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                              • Actually, most of us probably wouldn't care, and many would be displeased if the government stepped in on a matter where Coca-Cola could easily take care of itself.

                                A better example would be the Bourbon / Scotch trade-off mentioned earlier.

                                ANY AMERICANS READING THIS WHO CARE IF SOMEBODY MADE A EUROPEAN "BOURBON", POST!
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