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  • #31
    Originally posted by DanS
    Not to pick on you, Richard, but this is ridiculous, if true. 60 years ago is not practically yesterday.
    I don't know if 60 years ago is practically yesterday. But it sure seems the last major event is practically yesterday. Look at the Americans themselves: most of their understanding / prejudices about the rest of the world come from WW2. More specifically, the idea that France is a cowardly country comes solely from French surrendrance during WW2.

    This is a mere example to show that an old event can still be the cause of very current ideas. Even for the short attention-spanned Americans
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    • #32
      Originally posted by DanS
      It has been 70 years since Nanking, Richard. That's not practically yesterday. And even if it were, it's not a proper basis for foreign policy today!
      I never said it was right. I just answered the question.

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      • #33
        Of course. You know, only one child hasn't been diagnosed with ADHD in our country, and the officials have begun a huge manhunt so they can find him and for Ritalin into his body

        EDIT: re Spiffor

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        • #34
          Look at the Americans themselves: most of their understanding / prejudices about the rest of the world come from WW2.
          I don't believe that to be true.

          I never said it was right. I just answered the question.
          Understood.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Spiffor
            More specifically, the idea that France is a cowardly country comes solely from French surrendrance during WW2.
            We have more recent examples for that prejudice than that.
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            • #36
              DinoDoc: if you have evidence, it's not prejudice

              The common prejudice against the French is horribly wrong, but quite funny

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              • #37
                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                We have more recent examples for that prejudice than that.
                Yeah. We just love to appease harmless countries that happen to be our clients
                "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Spiffor
                  Yeah. We just love to appease harmless countries that happen to be our clients
                  Libya is a client of yours? You seem to be treating them quite baddly at the moment.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #39
                    Skywalker:

                    Sorry, I didn't understand your joke. What's ADHD and Ritalin ?
                    "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                    "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                    "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                    • #40
                      It's pretty clear to me that history is no longer being written by the victors. It's being written by the victims. Which is good, since everybody can be a victim with very little cost!
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc
                        Libya is a client of yours? You seem to be treating them quite baddly at the moment.
                        Of them ? Nah, we just thought that bombing the inhabitants of Tripoli was not the best solution to the Khadafi problem. And we could piss off the Yanks this way, and you know it's our national pasttime
                        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                        • #42
                          Re: Why do East Asians still hold grudges against Japan?

                          Originally posted by DanS
                          I'm reminded of this because China is making a big deal of one guy dieing from mustard gas poisioning from a left over barrel from WWII. It appears that Japan is going to make compensation, but China insists on whipping Japan over this at the highest levels.
                          This might be better explained by current political reflections than past hostilities. From what I have seen politicians, be they democratic ones or less than democratic, tend to use past events to bolster their current positions..
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Spiffor
                            Nah, we just thought that bombing the inhabitants of Tripoli was not the best solution to the Khadafi problem.
                            And keeping a "repressive" sanctions regime in place is?
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • #44
                              This might be better explained by current political reflections than past hostilities. From what I have seen politicians, be they democratic ones or less than democratic, tend to use past events to bolster their current positions..
                              Excellent point, Sprayber.

                              If I were Japan, I would be tempted to tell the Chinese to sod off on this issue and then play it in the local press as standing up to Chinese aims of hegemony.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Spiffor
                                Skywalker:

                                Sorry, I didn't understand your joke. What's ADHD and Ritalin ?
                                AdHD=Attention deficite, Hyperactivity disorder (formerly ADD). There is a movement by members of the "progressive" child psychologists to identify as many children as possible to have this "disease". They perscribe ritalin (a drug), which is essentially a downer, to combat this "disease". Many, many people feel this is bull**** and that some pscholgists are just trying to make money by doopping up children.
                                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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