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  • #91
    Originally posted by The diplomat
    The truth is that a Court is a highly appropriate place for the 10 Commandments. Maybe if more people learned the 10 Commandments, this country might be a better place.
    Yeah, because it's ignorance of the Ten Commandments that creates moral decay.

    Courts aren't an appropriate place for them, since they are a religious text. And since U.S. law isn't founded on the Ten Commandments, despite what religious fundamentalists want to believe, I fail to see why they are so appropriate.

    Gee, here's an idea...if we're going to have monuments in our court buildings towards great legal ideas, how about we just make monuments of the Constitution and have the laws of the U.S. posted in courts?
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    • #92
      too many G&T's
      We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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      • #93
        Originally posted by The diplomat
        The truth is that a Court is a highly appropriate place for the 10 Commandments. Maybe if more people learned the 10 Commandments, this country might be a better place.
        You're hopeless.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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        • #94
          Originally posted by The diplomat
          The truth is that a Court is a highly appropriate place for the 10 Commandments. Maybe if more people learned the 10 Commandments, this country might be a better place.
          Well, better not have any more American flags, then, because according to the Jehovah's Witnesses, they are graven images. They're Christians, too, aren't they?

          I guess we also need to tell them damned Buddhists and Hindus who's really in charge around here.

          Not to mention us "papists" who aren't Christian, according to good Christians like Mr. Jack Chick.
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          • #95
            Originally posted by The diplomat
            The truth is that a Court is a highly appropriate place for the 10 Commandments. Maybe if more people learned the 10 Commandments, this country might be a better place.
            Yeah! Except for the pagan, aethist and other who will go to hell for not acknowledging God as the only true God! We burn them...

            Please.

            This is a simple open and shut case, or at least Judge Moore made it so. So the truth is that in this country, officer of the court (which is what moore is) can not be allowed to attempt to glorify their own personal religious beliefs on anyone.
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            • #96
              Re: Alabama Supreme Court

              Originally posted by SpencerH
              Would tree huggers rather be compared with PETA looneys rather than religious ones then?
              I'm a tree hugger. Kinda drawing from the African Bushman, I apologize to the tree for the carnage I intend to inflict on it, and ask it to provide me with good wood for my purposes.
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              • #97
                Originally posted by Boris Godunov

                Gee, here's an idea...if we're going to have monuments in our court buildings towards great legal ideas, how about we just make monuments of the Constitution and have the laws of the U.S. posted in courts?
                I think we should have stautes of me.



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                We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Odin
                  Oh, we con't complain when you fundies try to corrupt My country with YOUR bigotry and intolerance in clear violation with the 1st amendment?

                  Oh, BTW, Being called tree hugger is a compliment!
                  Ah, before this flaming escalates any further, you gentlemen might want to remember that Ming is watching...
                  As for the original topic, by all means get the bloody rock out of there. Even from an entirely Christian-biased point of view, the faith is too interconnected with the image of patriotism as it is. Constitutionally it's pretty nonsensical too.
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                    The Alabama constitution mentions God, yes. Moore's stated reasons go beyond merely what is contained in the Alabama constitution, and both are irrelevent, as they can not supersede the US Constitution. This is a Federal law issue, and that's where Moore wanted it to go all along.
                    I think the argument could be made that it is a States' Rights issue.

                    The 10th Amendment states that "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

                    I think it would be a perfectly reasonable interpretation of said 10th Amendment that displaying religious documents or monuments is a State matter to decide.
                    'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
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                    • Re: Re: Alabama Supreme Court

                      Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


                      I'm a tree hugger. Kinda drawing from the African Bushman, I apologize to the tree for the carnage I intend to inflict on it, and ask it to provide me with good wood for my purposes.
                      Well the 150-200 foot oak tree in my front garden did look particularly fetching last night amidst the lightning bolts. I'm happy to say that tree and we survived intact.
                      We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                      If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                      Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                      • Originally posted by Asher

                        You're hopeless.
                        No, just a Christian, and proud of it!
                        'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                        G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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                        • Originally posted by The diplomat
                          I think the argument could be made that it is a States' Rights issue.

                          The 10th Amendment states that "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

                          I think it would be a perfectly reasonable interpretation of said 10th Amendment that displaying religious documents or monuments is a State matter to decide.
                          Well, gee, since the establishment clause is part of the U.S. Constitution, and thus prohibits the states from doing this kind of thing, I'd say this argument is dead in the water.
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                          • Originally posted by The diplomat
                            No, just a Christian, and proud of it!
                            I'm sure you're very proud, but little do you know how much of an embarassment you really are.

                            Ignorance is bliss, etc...
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                            • Originally posted by The diplomat
                              No, just a Christian, and proud of it!
                              Pride is a sin, son. Even this atheist knows that.
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                              • Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                                Yeah, because it's ignorance of the Ten Commandments that creates moral decay.
                                No. But the 10 Commandments can serve to remind people the difference between right from wrong, that you should love your neighbor, not covet their things, not murder, not steal, not commit adultery etc...

                                If more people were reminded of these things, life might be a little bit better, don't you think?
                                'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                                G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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