Alabama Supreme Court

[The diplomat]

The bottom line is that the 10 Commandments monument does not trample of anyone religious rights. it is simply a memorial. You atheists should learn to just get over it and move on. Stop throwing a fit just because you see the word "God" somewhere.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by The diplomat
I think it would be a perfectly reasonable interpretation of said 10th Amendment that displaying religious documents or monuments is a State matter to decide.

SCOTUS has already long disposed of that claim, and applied the Establishment Clause to the states via the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by The diplomat
No. But the 10 Commandments can serve to remind people the difference between right from wrong, that you should love your neighbor, not covet their things, not murder, not steal, not commit adultery etc...

If more people were reminded of these things, life might be a little bit better, don't you think?

I don't think posting such things on courthouses is going to make an iota of difference in how people act.

If you want to remind people of those virtues, fine, but do it without violating the constitution. Religion does not have a monopoly on morality. Our legal code enshrines enough virtues that I don't see why we need to supplement it with religious dogma.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by The diplomat
The bottom line is that the 10 Commandments monument does not trample of anyone religious rights. it is simply a memorial. You atheists should learn to just get over it and move on. Stop throwing a fit just because you see the word "God" somewhere.

Now I just have to believe you're outrightly lying, since it has been shown time and time again that this is NOT the purpose of the monument, that Moore intended it specifically as a religious icon to evoke his belief in God to the people.

Stop lying, it's a sin as well.

[Asher]

Originally posted by The diplomat
You atheists should learn to just get over it and move on. Stop throwing a fit

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it Moore and the religious nutcases backing him throwing the fits?

His superiors and colleagues have all ruled the statue illegal. So you god-fearing sinners should learn to get over it and move on.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Re: Re: Re: Alabama Supreme Court

Originally posted by SpencerH


Well the 150-200 foot oak tree in my front garden did look particularly fetching last night amidst the lightning bolts. I'm happy to say that tree and we survived intact.

Especially if it fell in your direction. When I was a kid, we had a 80 foot live oak split in half on us - one half shredded my dad's car a bit and busted the water line to our house in the peak of summer, the other half just fell across the front yard and made a hell of a mess. The bright side is we had lots of firewood, though.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by The diplomat
No. But the 10 Commandments can serve to remind people the difference between right from wrong, that you should love your neighbor, not covet their things, not murder, not steal, not commit adultery etc...

If more people were reminded of these things, life might be a little bit better, don't you think?

Most definitely, but we should remind these folks before their cases come up on appeal to Judge Moore's court, not after.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Oh, and by the way, Asher, and some other folks as well, we shall keep this on at least a somewhat civil level. That is my commandment.

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by Asher
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it Moore and the religious nutcases backing him throwing the fits?

I am talking about groups like the ACLU who go nuts just because a valedictorian mentions "Jesus" at a High School commencement, or when someone displays a manger scene in front of city hall, or when a judge displays the 10 Commandments in his court room to remind people about right from wrong.

[Asher]

It's quite civil.

So much for your exempt list.

[GePap]

Only problem, the highest courts of the land have said that last bit is illegal: yes, silly liberals for demanding that people be stopped form doing what is illegal!

[Asher]

Originally posted by The diplomat
I am talking about groups like the ACLU

And I'm talking about people like you.

"Get over it and move on"

There's no room for religious propaganda in the courtroom, deal with that.

You'll have better luck kidnapping children and brainwashing them.

(As a side note, I'll never understand the religious peoples' (sans Buddhists) who feel the need to convert everyone to be like them. )

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by SpencerH


I think we should have stautes of me.



Looking stern




With a big stick

Are you coming on to Boris?

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Now I just have to believe you're outrightly lying, since it has been shown time and time again that this is NOT the purpose of the monument, that Moore intended it specifically as a religious icon to evoke his belief in God to the people.

Moore was elected by the people of Alabama. He made no secret about his views on the 10 Commandments. If he meant the monument as a religious icon, then his constituents wanted it so. We live in a democracy, doesn't the will of the people count?

[Odin]

Not the States Rights BS.

about 8 years ago a tornado took out 2 huge Ponderosa Pines in my back yard. I miss those big trees, They made such good shade. Fortunatly I still have a bunch of big white ash for sshade, though.

MtG, that wouldent suprise me, live oaks have a tendency to get rediculously wide! You should come see some of our BIG bur oaks.