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  • Serb, thanks for the offer . I don't think that's the step needed to take back in order to take two steps forward though.

    Uh, but now I'm glad I don't live in a bureacracy country like few European countries, I just found out my application for housing never got there that I sent only like a month ago, and I need to move in 2 weeks to the new city to start Uni. So in other words I'm in DEEP POOP! What the heck, I just got on my knees and sent e-mail with my knees on the ground begging for anything. I think that'll help, I can't afford to be full of pride right now and demand service.. kind of on short notice . I blame the post office or the hippies working in their housing side though for losing my application. It would be nice to, you know have a place to sleep when in new city and all that
    In da butt.
    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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    • Originally posted by David Floyd
      Just watch out for Finnish ski troops
      It's summer time now David.

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      • Originally posted by Pekka
        Serb, thanks for the offer . I don't think that's the step needed to take back in order to take two steps forward though.

        Does it mean I should abort the invasion?
        Too bad, everthying is ready for resque mission. If you'll need our help, just whistle.

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        • I think you should abort.. I'll let you know when invasion is needed, if it is needed. But don't wait by the phone
          In da butt.
          "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
          THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
          "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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          • I'll be waiting.

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            • I think the most interesting thing about Pekka's posts is the downward spiral Finnland seems to be in. As time goes on, the level of services the tax base can afford continues to decrease. This implies an ever shrinking tax base - which seems the logical consequence of high taxes. I reference the Laffer Curve.

              However, all this is predicted - the inevitable consequences of high taxes and progressive tax rates.

              Obviously, Finnland needs the equivalent of a Republican party. Is there such an animal in Finnland?
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              • Well, we have the national coalition party and christian democratic party that are fairly conservative. NCP is much like republican/democratic party in USA
                Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                - Paul Valery

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                • Originally posted by Ned
                  Obviously, Finnland needs the equivalent of a Republican party.
                  I doubt that excessive corporate welfare, a regressive tax system, ballooning budget deficits and an irresponsible monetary policy will be much help.
                  “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                  • laurentius, I feel stupid asking, but what is NCP in finnish? Kokoomus?

                    Christian democratics are fairly conservative, but they have questionable ethics .
                    In da butt.
                    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                    • As time goes on, the level of services the tax base can afford continues to decrease. This implies an ever shrinking tax base - which seems the logical consequence of high taxes. I reference the Laffer Curve.
                      Finland's tax base is growing, although not very fast. Because of this, Finland has to pick and choose carefully what it does with regard to government services.
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • Mo money, mo troubles...

                        yeah Mr. P it's the kykypuolue I'm talking about, heh heh
                        Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.

                        - Paul Valery

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                        • Ok.. Well I guess you could say that NCP is like Republicans. But then again not.. since they wouldn't be even counted as lefties in the US.. but different systems all together so I guess you could say that.

                          I think some of their theories are ok, but I don't know if they would work any better.. but there's something I can identify with. But I'm not NCP man either, I loath Itälä.
                          In da butt.
                          "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                          THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                          "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                          • States are not islands. Finland and Sweden aren't "falling behind" anyone that I can see. But their relative distance ahead of others is declining. The two are different. People who talk of "decline" usually cuase toruble, cause they fail to see the difference between relative and absolute positions.
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                            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                            "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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