I HATE vegitarians who are vegitarians because of the animals well being

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Dissident
blah! blah! growing plants takes up more space. *yawn*

Show me a plant that has as much protein (and B12 for that matter) as meat and tastes just as good.

Go to the store. In the frozen food section are meatless burgers which taste like the real thing. They are made from wheat gluten. They also have chickenless patties. Finally, baked tufu has an incredibly meatlike texture such that it has fooled confirmed carnivores to whom I've given it.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Maniac
According to my biology teacher from a few years back, there's a certain vitamin that the human body doesn't produce in sufficient quality out of itself, and which can only be found in meat. You need to eat meat at least once a month to stay completely healthy, so he said.

He was wrong. He was likely referring to B-vitimins, which can easily be gained from eating one of two different types of yeast. What is true is that if you aren't careful, and you don't eat balanced vegitarian meals, you can get malnutrician. Vegitarianism forces you to think about what you're eating, and if you jst like to grab something and eat on the go, it's not a good lifestyle for you.

[The Mad Monk]

Soy patties have definately gotten better over the years -- though my favorite remains black bean patties.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by OliverFA
I don't eat vegetables because I cannot stand the thought of these poor beings being killed just to give me something to eat

Gee, that was funny the first time I heard it, about twnety years ago.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Gibsie
the number of people who actually die from eating infected meat is still so low that it gets reported in newspapers. So bleh

Assuming you aren't referring to just Mad Cow, many thousnads of Americans die every year from food poisoning, generally from undercooked meat.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Osweld


Cows Chickens and Pigs are all man-made species for the purpose of farming.

Alright the...consider the American White-Tailed Deer.

Due to a combination of uraban development and rural "varmant shooting", the deer had nearly disappeared from New Jersey by the turn of the century. However, because people wanted venison, they decided to try and save the deer. At first, they had a moratorium on hunting, and brought in deer from other regions, to create a healthy and diverse breeding stock. As time went on, they re-introduced hunting, and regulated it such that the herds would not be over-hunted.

Today, white-tailed deer are everywhere in New Jersey, all because we like venison.

[Zero]

Vegans have no appreciation for plant life.

[Gibsie]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Assuming you aren't referring to just Mad Cow, many thousnads of Americans die every year from food poisoning, generally from undercooked meat.

But that's an argument for cooking meat thoroughly, not stopping eating meat altogether.

[Odin]

Most herbaceous plants grown for food (grains, corn, etc) are annuals, they would die if not harversted anyway.

Che, one can raise the herbivourous fish to feed the carnivorous fish.

[chequita guevara]

Actually, many food plants couldn't survive without humans anyway. Corn (maize), for example, cannot reproduce without human intervention. We have to remove the husks in order for the seeds to grow.

Odin, the oceans were fine until about forty years ago, when factory fishing apeared. The Pacific Halibut is the major exception, which was nearly fished to extinction in the 1920s, and is now the best managed wild fish stock in the world. I believe in managing wild stocks, not replacing them with factory farming methods.

[Zero]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Actually, many food plants couldn't survive without humans anyway. Corn (maize), for example, cannot reproduce without human intervention. We have to remove the husks in order for the seeds to grow.

Those gigantic thingamajig is not natural to begin with because we have been genetically engineering for thousands of years.

Cow couldnt survive without humans cause we genetically engineered them to be total retards and fat. Same thing.

So corn is a bad example.

Most herbaceous plants grown for food (grains, corn, etc) are annuals, they would die if not harversted anyway.

Not sure but arent grains and corn the seeds of the plant? If we are eating the seeds i dont see how this would benefit the plants.

Exception of fruits (which are made by the plants for animals to be eating) it is not advantageous for plants to be consumed by animals.

EDIT: Minus F words

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Zero
Cow couldnt ****ing survive without humans cause we genetically engineered them to be total retards and fat. Same thing.

Except, of course, for all the wild cattle. Both Florida and Texas had huge herds of wild cattle because of the disrution of ranching during the civil war. Florida even still has a wild herd. I dunno about Texas.

[Zero]

oh and may I add one more thing:

Farming is a natural thing. Ants farm and milk (forgot insect name) for their milk, and as I said, Cows have farm of bacteria living in their gut that they feed with grass only to be consumed when they grow in numbers.... so I dont see why you have something agst farming animals. Oh no the cruelty! We should charge those ants with lawsuits

[Zero]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

Originally posted by Zero
Cow couldnt ****ing survive without humans cause we genetically engineered them to be total retards and fat. Same thing.

Except, of course, for all the wild cattle. Both Florida and Texas had huge herds of wild cattle because of the disrution of ranching during the civil war. Florida even still has a wild herd. I dunno about Texas.

Duh! Obviously if they're wild animals/plants can live w/o humans. What was the point was bringing this up? Thanks for stating the obvious.

EDIT: I cuss too much, when its not really necessary. (took profanities out)

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Zero


Duh! Obviously if they're wild animals/plants can live w/o humans. What was the point was bringing this up? Thanks for stating the obvious.

They had previously been domesticated. They went wild when they were untended during the Civil War.