Republican pigheadedness.

[GePap]

We all can see that Ming's biases are deeply burried an don;t show up at all!

We all have biases, you have shown yours (HOW dare anyone attack the republican party!!!) and I have shown mine. I have also moved on.

And yes, influence does matter, hence the term, "influence".

[MrFun]

Originally posted by GePap


We all can see that Ming's biases are deeply burried an don;t show up at all!

We all have biases, you have shown yours (HOW dare anyone attack the republican party!!!) and I have shown mine. I have also moved on.

And yes, influence does matter, hence the term, "influence".

You miss his point -- for the 10th time.

You can criticize legitimate flaws among Republicans -- but you shouldn't blanket all Republicans as if they are ideological clones.

[GePap]

And when did I say all republicans are anything? Please quote freely.

What I did say si that what Ming terms "the fringe" is not as far form the centers of power of the republican party as they are form the center of power of the dmeocratic party.

[Ming]

Originally posted by GePap

We all have biases, you have shown yours (HOW dare anyone attack the republican party!!!) and I have shown mine. I have also moved on.

You aren't listening... I never said anything like that... I stated that all parties have hardcore morons that attack others... so you shouldn't just pick on any party, because all do it...

Which is far different than your biased POV that's it's ok for one and not another...

Enjoy...

[GePap]

Which is far different than your biased POV that's it's ok for one and not another...

And I said this..? (Again, as I told MrFun, feel free to quote me from the thread.)

To repaet yet again: the difference is that those that you call "the fringe" are closer to the decision makers in the epublican party than Dem, or at the minimum, have a much wider audience among the groups that votes for one party or the other.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by GePap
It's not a matter of pigheadedness: it is a matter that it is becoming all to abhorently common to see conservatives attack liberals as unpatriotic in way liberals DO NOT attack conservatives, and everyone just say "oh, trogledites will be trogledites".

Here is one that is close.

You say that liberals do not attack conservatives as unpatriotic.

I dare say that if some Democrats WERE in the position to do so, they would do the same attacks in the name of -- guess what -- POLITICS.

You seem to claim that if a person is liberal, they would hold themselves to higher standards rather than bend to using the same low-down tactics that some conservatives do.

[Ming]

Originally posted by GePap
[To repaet yet again: the difference is that those that you call "the fringe" are closer to the decision makers in the epublican party than Dem, or at the minimum, have a much wider audience among the groups that votes for one party or the other.

So again... because you don't seem to be listening...

SO WHAT. Just because somebody has more influence doesn't make it any more right or wrong.

IT'S WRONG PERIOD... NO MATTER WHO DOES IT, and no matter HOW MUCH INFLUENCE THEY HAVE.

You seem to be taking the postion that it's ok to do it if you have less influence.

IT'S WRONG... PERIOD.

[loinburger]

What is it that fills so many right wing conservatives with hate for anyone and anything which is different from their own narrow political beliefs?

Poly has its fair share of left wingers who love to say that all Republicans are evil. (They use that very word: evil. Not "unpatriotic" or "booger-faced" or whatever, but "evil.")

[GePap]

Originally posted by MrFun


Here is one that is close.

You say that liberals do not attack conservatives as unpatriotic.

I dare say that if some Democrats WERE in the position to do so, they would do the same attacks in the name of -- guess what -- POLITICS.

You seem to claim that if a person is liberal, they would hold themselves to higher standards rather than bend to using the same low-down tactics that some conservatives do.

Yes, i do say that most liberals don;t attack conservatives as being anti-patriotic just by being conservatives, and no, you chose to assume I was implying a double stardard. The point, which is what Oerdin tries to make, is that many conservatives whish to label the entire liberal side as inhernetly unpatriotic, and no, liberals are nowhere near as common to make the claim that being conservative equals being unpatriotic.

That is the difference.

[Ming]

Originally posted by loinburger

Poly has its fair share of left wingers who love to say that all Republicans are evil. (They use that very word: evil. Not "unpatriotic" or "booger-faced" or whatever, but "evil.")

So true... So true... But that seems to be ok by GePap's standards since the liberals and Dems don't have any influence right now...

[Imran Siddiqui]

liberals are nowhere near as common to make the claim that being conservative equals being unpatriotic.

I'd rather be called 'unpatriotic' rather than being called, as I am called, 'evil'.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ming


So again... because you don't seem to be listening...

SO WHAT. Just because somebody has more influence doesn't make it any more right or wrong.

IT'S WRONG PERIOD... NO MATTER WHO DOES IT, and no matter HOW MUCH INFLUENCE THEY HAVE.

You seem to be taking the postion that it's ok to do it if you have less influence.

IT'S WRONG... PERIOD.

You infer "it is OK" when I say "it is different". That seems a bit dubious to me: are those two things equal to you?

[GePap]

Originally posted by loinburger

Poly has its fair share of left wingers who love to say that all Republicans are evil. (They use that very word: evil. Not "unpatriotic" or "booger-faced" or whatever, but "evil.")

And we were not talking about Poly.

So true... So true... But that seems to be ok by GePap's standards since the liberals and Dems don't have any influence right now...

You have a weird dictionary, where "different" equate to OK. You may need to buy a new one.

I'd rather be called 'unpatriotic' rather than being called, as I am, 'evil'.

BUt you are evil Imran

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I'd rather be called 'unpatriotic' rather than being called, as I am called, 'evil'.

Embrace it. I have.

/me is a proud Apolyton Evil Capitalist Conservative member

[Drake Tungsten]

I remember reading some piece in which the author laid out the basic belief system that political debate in American is based on: conservatives think liberals are stupid and liberals think conservatives are evil. This may be shifting somewhat, but I think it is still more true than not. Wish I could remember who wrote the article, as it was quite good.