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  • #31
    Originally posted by Agathon
    I'm prepared to pay for style, size and functionality. Well made things cost more.
    Well-made things? Last I heard Apple had QC problems.

    If only Apple's quality control hadn't gone so downhill. The last three Apple products I bought have all had major problems resulting in weeks away at Apple's special service centre, and a lot of inconvenience for me! My iPod just died after 42 days - I've heard a lot of people having similar problems. So far it's been three weeks and it's still not been repaired. 1. Bad things about iPod - it only has 5GB of spce, where the DAP jukebox has 6GB and Archos do a 20GB version for the same price. 2. You can't edit or create playlists on the fly, have to do it via your computer. 3. For easiest use, its best to keep a copy of all the songs on your computer hard disk, which can be a pain. 4. It scratches easily and doesn't come with a case 5. Price - it IS expensive Good things: 1. Small, gorgeous to look at 2. battery life is very long 3. Fast transfer of files via firewire But my bad experiences with Apple's quality control and post-sales customer service have now made me vow NEVER to buy another Apple product after this.


    Well, I've now had my 20gb ipod for around 2 months and the g-dam thing crashed while I was taking a stroll, unrecoverable, loads of music and files....Poooff GONE! Of course its hopeless to do self repair since you'll void warranty, and its firewire connection leaves few options when doing disk diagnosis with the ever so worthless Norton utilities, and that goes for the even more incredibly and unbearably worthless waste of money ever, "DRIVE X" (do not waste your money on this). I swear after this little experience and the paucity in decent programs, I'm fixing to join the dark side and go PC. I have just as many hair-pulling experiences with the mac as I do my Sony Vaio. I WAS a mac loyalist because I believed in it, but its starting to make little sense in sticking by the f - - ing machine. Give me the Studio Display and a PC, and I'll be fine. This was the last straw along with trying to find the right multipurpose software for burning LP's to CD----jillions of PC programs with mega whistles and bells, and what does the mac have.....the obsolete dog of a program, "Spin Doctor". Well, I've had it , I'm tired of the uphill battle and vacuous justification for sticking by APPLE, its more friggin trouble than its worth and I'm discovering that there's a hell of a lot more you can do on the PC. Facts a fact, majority rules. Excuse me while i throw this little white crap box off my rooftop. Time to catch up and put my money into substance rather than facade


    Reading the Mac discussions there have been a number of complaints about the iPod battery life (First users are finding that their battery life is over after 1 to 1.5 years). The batteries cannot be replaced by the consumer. Apple charges over $250 to repair them. The Creative 'Zen' is likely a similar story. Throwaway toys!. Also, I find the 20GB drives attractive but I don't think they have the staying power and for $500(iPod) or even $300 (Zen) they are way too expensive little gizmos. Moving parts have a limited life. I say stick with no moving parts. My Rio has lasted 2 years so far and no compalints - it's still tickin'. The RAM-based MP3 players are a much better deal and a better bet for longevity.

    (though that last one bashes the Zen too -- just thought I'd be "unbiased" )
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • #32
      That guy praises rio and ram based mp3 players - he has no credibility whatsoever.

      I own one of the old ones, and my friend, a pc user, owns one of the new ones. They both work great and we both love them. Oh, and his is wicked light, while mine is merely alot lighter than Asher's godzillaesque monstrosity.

      Hint, Asher - just because it's silver doesn't mean it's stylish.
      "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
      Drake Tungsten
      "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
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      • #33
        I admit the iPod is better looking, but it's also a stupid thing to buy unless you want to be a trendy yuppie when compared to competing players like the Zen (which is still smaller and lighter than a CD player).
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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        • #34
          I'd only get an iPod if the price was significantly lower. It is waaaaay to expensive to justify all the other features.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #35
            apple doesn't make the HDs for the ipod. that's done by hitachi.

            in any case, if you can afford it, and want to be fashionable, go for the ipod.

            the upshot of some of the other mp3 players is that you can also use them just like an external hard drive, rather than just an mp3 player.
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            • #36
              Give credit where credit is due. When it came out, the Ipod was totally inovative and a big step in the right direction for HD-based portable MP3 players.

              The cons were and are the typical apple-stretched price and the anti-piracy software (which may be defunct now I'm not sure) that decided for you where you could store your MP3's.
              We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
              If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
              Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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              • #37
                Good timing!

                The Zen's successor was unveiled today, the Zen LX.





                Features long battery life (14 hrs), new design, smaller & lighter, removable battery, 20GB and 30GB varieties.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Asher
                  Good timing!

                  The Zen's successor was unveiled today, the Zen LX.
                  Wow, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

                  It's almost as bad as buymusic.com ripping off Apple's (albeit awful) adverts.

                  Well at least we know who all the others are copying (again).
                  Only feebs vote.

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                  • #39
                    You mean like when Apple copied the GUI and Mouse from Xerox?
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #40
                      I have to wonder how much the zen lx will cost though...
                      "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
                      Drake Tungsten
                      "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
                      Albert Speer

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by monolith94
                        I have to wonder how much the zen lx will cost though...
                        It'll be the same price, or cheaper, than the Zen.

                        The LX, believe it or not, is the value version.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #42
                          Gee, haven't you always wanted an imitation BMW or an imitation Quad or a pair of imitation Docs?
                          Only feebs vote.

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                          • #43
                            I would kill for an "imitation" BMW with a better engine and cheaper price.

                            The Zen and Zen LX have better audio quality than the iPod, according to the published SNR

                            And what is with Apple user's one-sided opposition to "copying"? Apple copied Creative's harddrive idea, Apple copied MS' fast-user switching idea, Apple copied IBM's Netvista X design with the new iMac, etc.

                            But the second someone else comes out with something that resembles something Apple did, they get their panties in a twist and insist it's somehow inferior...how dare people pay less and get more.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #44
                              I mean, lets do a comparison:

                              iPod battery life: 8 hours
                              Zen battery life: 14 hours

                              iPod max size: 30GB
                              Zen max size: 60GB

                              iPod SNR: >90dB
                              Zen SNR: >98dB

                              Plus the Zen has DSP stuff like real-time audio normalization (so tracks all end up a uniform volume), time scaling, 4-band equalizer, headphone spatialization, and EAX effects.

                              Hmm. Longer battery life, more storage, better sound quality, more DSP options -- and for 65% of the iPod's price?

                              That's not a "clone", that's a "trump".
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #45
                                My crappy mp3-cd player is dying, so I'm gonna need a replacement soon.

                                The Zen is looking awfully attractive, though I'll be waiting awhile before buying anything.

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