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You are an ass.
Your inability to cite shows how you are making up so called facts.
Your inability to cite shows how you are making up so called facts.
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For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence) -
I really hope that you're never put in a position to argue for your life, Fez.
If you are then I have some words of advice - you will live longer if you say nothing at all.
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Freako, you are a fool I already disproved in a different debate.
Now if anybody would actually cite anything around here maybe we would get somewhere.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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is the AN-94 5,45mm like the AK-74? if it is then the round has inferior ballistics to the 5.56 NATO.
Perhaps you know another AR that fires TWO bullets that fly on the same trajectory and makes ONE hole instead of TWO in target located 100 meters away?
how does it do this??? Unless it fires the first bullet with absolutely no recoil, the second bullet would be fired at a higher trajectory, no matter how slight, this would make a significant difference at 100m
AN-94:Maximum effective range: 700 meters
wow, if this is true, that is phenomenal. What round cartridge does it use again? If its the 5.45, i dont think this is ballistically possible, because it is such a light bullet. If its a different round, then that is very impressive for an AR.
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Kramerman - Creator and Author of The Epic Tale of Navalon in the Civ III Stories ForumComment
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I didn't see that... a 5.45MM bullet would be inferior to the 5.56MM NATO standard. You're right... the bullet isn't heavy enough to go farther than the 5.56MM. Okay.. now Serb has been proven to be completely wrong.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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not necissarily, a lot for range does depend on the rifle. But a effective range of 700m would be all but impossible to the best of my knowledge, with that particular bullet.Originally posted by Fez
I didn't see that... a 5.45MM bullet would be inferior to the 5.56MM NATO standard. You're right... the bullet isn't heavy enough to go farther than the 5.56MM. Okay.. now Serb has been proven to be completely wrong.
I mean, the M-24, one of the most acurate rifles on the earth, fires the much heavier 7.62mm NATO and has an effective range of 800m. I very much doubt an automatic rifle has a range comparable to a bolt action rifle (by virtue of less moving parts), let alone a super accurate bolt action rifle with a more powerful cartridge."I bet Ikarus eats his own spunk..."
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Kramerman - Creator and Author of The Epic Tale of Navalon in the Civ III Stories ForumComment
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The question arises, do they need a semi-automatic rifle like the M-16 to have a range like 800m? No they do not. It is not the type of weapon used for that. Usually sniper weapons are for that purpose.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Disproved???Originally posted by Fez
Freako, you are a fool I already disproved in a different debate.
Now if anybody would actually cite anything around here maybe we would get somewhere.
How?
To give an example of how much others thought you had 'disproved' me:
Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Fez, come on now. Admit you're beaten. El freako has owned you so thouroughly in this debate that I wouldn't be surprised if there were now an "e.f." branded on your butt.
You seem to live in your own fantasy world where anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a 'leftist' and therefore a liar and imbecile.
I think this search for such a simplistic world is probably something to do with your adolescence, as you are nearing your twenties you seem to yearn for the false simplicities of childhood.
You desperately need to learn when to check your assumptions against reality - it seems that currently when you do this you claim that it must be reality that is at fault.19th Century Liberal, 21st Century EuropeanComment
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Originally posted by el freako
You seem to live in your own fantasy world where anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a 'leftist' and therefore a liar and imbecile.
You desperately need to learn when to check your assumptions against reality - it seems that currently when you do this you claim that it must be reality that is at fault.
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Oh... you need link?Originally posted by Fez
You are an ass.
Your inability to cite shows how you are making up so called facts.
Check this:
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As I said earlier:Originally posted by Kramerman
how does it do this??? Unless it fires the first bullet with absolutely no recoil, the second bullet would be fired at a higher trajectory, no matter how slight, this would make a significant difference at 100m
1) it's almost recoilless
2) not only recoil, but rate of fire it's very important for this too. If second bullet is fired EXTREMLY fast after the first, the differense will not be significant at 100 meters. Theoretical rate of fire of AN-94 at two rounds burst mode is 1800 rounds per minute. IOW, it shots two bullets practitally at the same moment of time.
EDITED: I found another link which explains it better:
"Operations of an assault rifle are based on utilization of propellant combustion gases diverted from the barrel bore into gas cylinder. To significantly enhance accuracy of fire the assault rifle uses the blow back shifted pulse (BBSP). The BBSP by nature is a delay of the shock of the firing unit in its rear position in relation to the moment the bullet escapes from the barrel, i.e. while the burst of the first two rounds are being fired at the rate of 1,800 rpm both the barrel and the firing unit are travelling along the guiding rail in the integrated carrier-stock toward its rear. The time before the firing unit compresses the buffer spring inside the carrier-stock above the foregrip and completes recoil cycle is enough for two bullets to escape from the barrel. The operator feels the recoil as a single aggregated shock which does not effect the trajectory of bullets already headed down range and, hence, allows a better hit probability. In the process of firing, two simultaneous actions are in progress: travel of the integrated firing unit inside the carrier-stock and movement of components of the firing mechanism. "
It use 5.45mm. See link I've posted above, for more info. wow, if this is true, that is phenomenal. What round cartridge does it use again? If its the 5.45, i dont think this is ballistically possible, because it is such a light bullet. If its a different round, then that is very impressive for an AR.
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Let me guess...and if AR have effective range of 800 meters...you think that's disadvantage and that this AR sucks, right?Originally posted by Fez
The question arises, do they need a semi-automatic rifle like the M-16 to have a range like 800m? No they do not. It is not the type of weapon used for that. Usually sniper weapons are for that purpose.
Sure they need an AR with range like 800m. What's the point to carry special bulky and slow sniper rifles, if standart, universal assualt rifles could be as well effective at the same range as special rifles?
But, are they able me make such universal assault rifle?Comment
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Serb has yet again failed to prove anything of great importance.
It comes down to one fact, the M-16 is better than the AN-94.
He has also failed to understand a 5.45MM round can't go 800M.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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And yet all of his sites are Russian...
What a dumbass...For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Your assessment of economics is inaccurate at best.Originally posted by el freako
Disproved???
How?
To give an example of how much others thought you had 'disproved' me:
I don't live in the fantasy world, rather you and Serb are in that.You seem to live in your own fantasy world where anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a 'leftist' and therefore a liar and imbecile.
Serb is a ****ing stalinist...
And you my friend, are a jerk. Plain and simple, all you have done in your post is insulted me. I might be younger than you, but that is by no reason to go after me. I will admit I did do that to several posters here, but they are smart people too... false simplicities? My views are not simple yet extremely complex.I think this search for such a simplistic world is probably something to do with your adolescence, as you are nearing your twenties you seem to yearn for the false simplicities of childhood.
Assumptions against reality?You desperately need to learn when to check your assumptions against reality - it seems that currently when you do this you claim that it must be reality that is at fault.
An ******* like Serb brings up reality? He is a frigging Stalinist who has no clue.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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