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  • Originally posted by red_jon
    I've only ever had full sex with one person - who was my boyfriend and we were in a stable, monogamous relationship.

    I just do things were there is no danger of transmission (if that's not too much information )
    that is a change. You should have posted a thread to keep me informed.

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    • Originally posted by Wittlich


      Chegitz .................................................. ................ never mind, I'll let that one pass - though it is such a tempting target, I'll be good.
      I'm curious about this.
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • Redfern while we are on this subject, you see those pictures I posted of myself a while ago in that leather jacket?
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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          • For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • Originally posted by TCO


              that is a change. You should have posted a thread to keep me informed.

              I wasn't posting on Poly at the time - the internet nills we had to pay for our dorms on campus meant I couldn't do anything as time consuming as poly

              I didn't see any major difference, it wasn't Earth shattering or anything. But I miss bieng anble to say I'm a virgin

              Fez - no I haven't. I only just came back to poly a coupla days ago.

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              • Hi, Adam! Good questions!

                though one could wonder whether gay or straight people should be getting married for the health benefits.
                There are very important matters of benefits, but also there is the huge issue of respect and legitimacy in the eyes of one's community. That's why the "separate but equal" solution of "domestic partners" doesn't cut it for many. As Andrew Sullivan memorably put it, "it's just a finer form of discrimination."

                What other genetic factors are there? How do they apply in your case?
                I do not believe anyone yet has much of a clue as to what factors are involved, or even the how much is due to genetics versus environment. However, a good place to start might be a case study of my lesbian friend who has a lesbian sister. They grew up next door to a gay man with four gay sons (from an earlier marriage).

                A friend tells me that aside from “coming out”, the most defining Gay experience is determining one’s “type”
                A lot of gay people become hopelessly pre-occupied with figuring out what "type" they are and what they are into, whether it's a look, a race, an age, a sexual preference ("top", "bottom", or "versatile"), etc. I think westerners, especially Americans, spend far too much time trying to force themselves into artificial pigeonholes fabricated out of our desire to analyze and organize.

                Does this mean that sexual attraction plays a larger or dominant role in gay and lesbian relationships than it does in heterosexual ones? As one person put it, “Is it all about sex?“
                Well, there is the business of some feeling that they are sexually "passive" or "active", which may be a very important criteria in choosing a spouse if you are feel that you are exclusively one or the other. With straights, biology naturally sorts this one out, for gays it can be more complex.

                To what extent do people engage in risky sexual behavior even when they have full knowledge?
                The extent is in direct proportion to their idiocy.

                A couple years ago I had a discussion with Mindseye in which he listed the problems he faced. One annoyance was that people kept asking him when he would get married.
                I remember that conversation! Wow, I thought that problem was bad then, if only I could have known how much worse it would be in China! As you know, it's unusual to be over thirty and single here, so I'm constantly asked why I'm unmarried and if I like Shanghainese girls. I like your answer, I think I'll start using it!

                But if the same standard is applied to both groups, is the standard discriminatory, even if it seems a harsh standard to some people?
                I think it's very, very hard to define standards of sexual activity for any given community, outside of the broadest and most obvious (e.g. sex with children is a bad thing). I think people need the freedom to decide for themselves whether or not a particular behavior or lifestyle is demeaning. Personally, I can't begin to understand many sexual practices (e.g. "water sports") practiced by gays as well as straights. But I wouldn't dream of trying to force my "standard" on someone else's private sexual activity.

                Any plans yet to bring your daughters for a visit to the Motherland?
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                • Originally posted by red_jon



                  I wasn't posting on Poly at the time - the internet nills we had to pay for our dorms on campus meant I couldn't do anything as time consuming as poly

                  I didn't see any major difference, it wasn't Earth shattering or anything. But I miss bieng anble to say I'm a virgin

                  Fez - no I haven't. I only just came back to poly a coupla days ago.
                  dogpile!!!

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                  • Originally posted by red_jon

                    Fez - no I haven't. I only just came back to poly a coupla days ago.



                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • I would like one of the moderators to close this thread now. I think it has been spammed out.
                      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                      • Well tough ****. You don't own the thread. We can all post here. I don't buy that crap about the threadstarter getting some special right to close th thread when he doesn't like where it is going.

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                        • Originally posted by TCO
                          Well tough ****. You don't own the thread. We can all post here. I don't buy that crap about the threadstarter getting some special right to close th thread when he doesn't like where it is going.
                          Well tough ****, I own the thread, and the tradition usually goes that the starter can ask for his/her thread to be closed.
                          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                          • you don't own the thread. you own your posts. you prissy little...grrr....restraint.

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                            • Originally posted by MrFun
                              I would like one of the moderators to close this thread now. I think it has been spammed out.
                              I think it has very little spam...
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • Well, ok -- looking back, I suppose this thread still meets my standards.
                                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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