I took a trip to the suburbs...

[David Floyd]

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by JohnT
All that non-comformists do is conform away from the mean, you know? But they still conform.

It's kinda like a bunch of townies *****in' about frat-boys because "they're all the same." Oh, yeah? How exactly is that different from their group where all of them have the same political views, the same tastes in drugs, the same music acts, and the same torn clothes as every other member of the "townie" set?

Ahhh... college days. When you realize it's just like high school, only bigger.

While conformity to anti-conformity may happen sometimes, it doesn't seem that big. Now, given, people at no matter what age tend to hang out with people of common interests, but so far college seems to be a place where people tend not to care as much if you differ from the group.

Anyway, I'll have to agree with AS on this one . With the exception of the nasty problem of insufficent parking, I like living in Pittsburgh better then I do living my suburban home.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by David Floyd
So, sorry, but I'll take the suburbs ANY day over living in the city.

I'm young and unmarried so I'd love to live in a hip downtown area over a suburb that's filled with families and whiny kids. After I have kids I'll move back to the burbs but for now it's living the good life in the city.

[David Floyd]

The problem is that in the city, there's more crime, more traffic, less parking, and in general more problems.

[Dis]

many american cities don't have "hip" downtown areas. Unless you consider crack whores and junkies hip.

[Al B. Sure!]

Provost:

Is there some kind of relationship between the amount of land and the right-wingness of the person?

most def... the more land, the more left wing someone is...

many american cities don't have "hip" downtown areas. Unless you consider crack whores and junkies hip.

philly's downtown area has been gentrified and is now made up of wealthy yuppies so philly do got a "hip" (though i dont really understand what that means; is it equivalent to rich gay people ) downtown area

[Shi Huangdi]

"most def... the more land, the more left wing someone is..."

Actually, it's quite the opposite. Urban people tend to be the most likely to vote Democratic, Rural People are most likely to vote Republican, and Suburban people tend to fall somewhere in between.

[monolith94]

would we please stop with the more or less land makes you whatever comments please? it's an insult to intelligence.

[Al B. Sure!]

Shi:

no... the question was about left-wingedness and right-wingedness not republicans or democrats... people in the cities are very conservative they just vote democrat for odd reasons... i posted a thread about this some time ago and i was told that people in the inner city, though they may be socially very much republicans, vote their wallets and hence vote democrat...

but the point is, people here are conservative but they vote democrat

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
Shi:

no... the question was about left-wingedness and right-wingedness not republicans or democrats... people in the cities are very conservative they just vote democrat for odd reasons... i posted a thread about this some time ago and i was told that people in the inner city, though they may be socially very much republicans, vote their wallets and hence vote democrat...

but the point is, people here are conservative but they vote democrat

I find this broad, sweeping statement rather suprising seeing as how you have lived your entire life in the city.

Do people in the city not use drugs? Do they not have prostitutes? Do they not have premarital sex? Do they not have abortions? I'd like to see statistics to that effect.

The common beliefs hold that rural people who live in small towns tend towards traditonal family values, whereas urban people tend to be more modern and progressive when it comes to those things.

[Jon Miller]

I have lived mostly in rural areas

I think that it is great if you have a car, without a car it can get a little annoying (having to bum rides and the like)

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

currently I live in Hyattsville MD

it is a suburb of DC, but at least in the area I am in, it is all apartments

Jon Miller

[The Templar]

Originally posted by David Floyd
When I moved to my first apartment in Austin, I was living actually in a major city for the first time. Parking/traffic was awful, too many lower class people, extremely trashy, and few people who fit the "stereotype" of people I would want to hang out with. I hated it.

What, did you live on East 12th st.?

Fortunately, I moved right outside of Austin, to the Westlake/Lakeway area. I'm in a MUCH nicer apartment, near the lake, less traffic, all in all much nicer. The area isn't fully developed, so yes, AS, I do have to go a few miles to go out to dinner, or go to the grocery store, or whatnot. But fortunately I have a car, and it's definitely worth having to drive 5-10 miles. Doesn't take that long, and when I come home, I don't have to hate the area in which I live.

Westlake!

Now I know never to take you seriously again.

The conservative Ghetto of Austin (at least when I lived there). Thank you (and your development) for ****ing up the Aquifer, Barton Springs, the natural beauty and the general environment of the hill country. Would you care to club some baby seals while you're at it?

[JohnT]

There are baby seals in Austin?

[David Floyd]

Templar,

What, did you live on East 12th st.?

Riverside, actually. Blegh.

The conservative Ghetto of Austin (at least when I lived there). Thank you (and your development) for ****ing up the Aquifer, Barton Springs, the natural beauty and the general environment of the hill country. Would you care to club some baby seals while you're at it?

It still looks nice to me, certainly far nicer than Austin itself does. As to clubbing baby seals, I dunno, but if they taste as good as dolphins in tuna cans I might have to try it