Liberia: What should we do

[Drake Tungsten]

The benefits to the Iraqi people were never clear cut, and now, my position all along is being borne out, as we are seeing the prospect of an improvement in Iraqi's lives, both now and in the long term, to be something of a fantasy of the US govt PR departments.

What are you smoking?

Sorry, its late, I'm stoned

Nevermind.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Um... elijah, Might Makes Right... so it doesn't matter if it's his opinion or not. If the US believes it's a mess, then it's a mess. QED.

[Whaleboy]

Ah of course, Might makes Right. I concede the entire argument and swear my undying allegiance to George W. Bush, will make love to the US flag and have a tattoo of a bald eagle on my left buttock.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That's the spirit!

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Um... elijah, Might Makes Right...

I thought you were a follower of Liberal IR theory?

[Whaleboy]

That was sig material there guys!

DD: Lib IR followers are a dying species atm

[Imran Siddiqui]

I thought you were a follower of Liberal IR theory?

I am (mostly because a lot of Realism is so retarded)... but Might still Makes Right. That's the one part of Realism I can agree with.

[Whaleboy]

Imran: You ever heard of something called subjectivity?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yes, as Berzerker can tell you, I'm a moral relativist .

Of course, that also means that I think that the strong can impose morals on others... because one morality isn't any better than the other, so who cares?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by elijah
DD: Lib IR followers are a dying species atm

If only they'd take the Neocons with them.

[Spiffor]

DD:
Don't tell me the Neocons actually have followers among IR students ?

[Whaleboy]

I'm a moral relativist

YAY!!! See my article on it on my site if you want!

Of course, relativism shows that it is illogical for one subjective to force itself on another subjective, the basis of more force being irrelevant there, thus it is still illogical.

[Imran Siddiqui]

DD, neocons are the just the other side of the Liberal coin .

I can place myself between Liberalism and Realism, but much closer to Liberalism.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Spiffor
DD:
Don't tell me the Neocons actually have followers among IR students ?

Not that I know of. However, it is an offshoot of Liberal IR theory.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Of course, relativism shows that it is illogical for one subjective to force itself on another subjective, the basis of more force being irrelevant there, thus it is still illogical.

How many things in this world actually end up 'logical'? It's silly to think everyone will have logical beliefs. They may make rational decisions in the marketplace, but not in the marketplace of ideas.

Yes, forcing your morals over someone else is illogical... but that never stops anyone.