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  • Attacking? Who's attacking? It would just be nice to have a military presence to make sure there's no sudden coups or whatnot, and maybe throw in a few advisors to smooth over the transition into a new democratic republic.
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    • Well, if that's all that's involved, why do we need the heavies?

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      • Originally posted by GP
        Who is the enemy?

        Potential troublemakers from either the loyalists or the rebels, who want a too big part of the pie.

        Why are we attacking? Who are we attacking?

        This is not precisely an attack with a declared enemy. This is rather to ensure stability as the power passes from Taylor to whomever will lead Liberia after that. The aim is to have a stable Liberia whose leadership owes to the US. It would strengthen US presence in Africa, and help to get a hold on Liberia's resources.
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        • By heavies, I mean the US. The reason people want us is cause they know that we have forces out the ass and a tendancy to use em...

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          • And the idea that we should get involved because it would smooth fences has got to be the worst, I've ever heard.

            I agree.

            By heavies, I mean the US. The reason people want us is cause they know that we have forces out the ass and a tendancy to use em...

            Again, I agree.
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            • Well, if that's all that's involved, why do we need the heavies?


              More weight to the peacekeeping. It looks better when the US is in charge, because lord knows how crap the UN is.
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              • Originally posted by Spiffor
                Originally posted by GP
                Who is the enemy?

                Potential troublemakers from either the loyalists or the rebels, who want a too big part of the pie.

                Why are we attacking? Who are we attacking?

                This is not precisely an attack with a declared enemy. This is rather to ensure stability as the power passes from Taylor to whomever will lead Liberia after that. The aim is to have a stable Liberia whose leadership owes to the US. It would strengthen US presence in Africa, and help to get a hold on Liberia's resources.
                Just tell me who to kill. should we disarm both sides and take over or are we supporting one side or other. No biggy. Just tell me what you want done...

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                • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  Well, if that's all that's involved, why do we need the heavies?


                  More weight to the peacekeeping. It looks better when the US is in charge, because lord knows how crap the UN is.
                  No they're not!! They were so ready to force Saddam to abide by his cease-fire terms. Err...well...no.

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                  • Originally posted by GP
                    By heavies, I mean the US. The reason people want us is cause they know that we have forces out the ass and a tendancy to use em...
                    Not only that. The UK was asked to act in Sierra Leone. France was asked to act in Ivory Coast. France was also asked to act in Congo.
                    If the US is called this time, despite Africa not being its usual playground, is because the ties between the US and Liberia aren't only historic. The US is the most likely power to have a few "Mr. Liberia" with power, people who have big informal relation networks within the country, and who have an understanding of the Liberian particulars.
                    Had it happened in Ghana or Togo, the US wouldn't have been called in, because these countries do not belong to the irtraditional sphere of influence, and as such the US doesn't have the most dense networks and informations there.
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                    • Originally posted by GP
                      Just tell me who to kill.
                      We don't know yet, and we don't know if there will be any need to kill at all. Your mere presence may be enough to avoid a new burst of violence.
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                      • All I have to say, is that we better have some heavier forces this time and real political support. I don't want to see our boys dragged through the streets of Monrovia.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • I say once a year there should be a day when the world gets together in a 6 billion person, worldwide mass orgy we can call it Orgy Day.
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                          • Originally posted by DanS
                            All I have to say, is that we better have some heavier forces this time. I don't want to see our boys dragged through the streets of Monrovia.
                            Indeed. But for now, the American intervention seems to enjoy a high popularity. Except if there is a major political blunder they shouldn't suffer from anthipathy until the Nigerians take their place.
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                            "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
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                            • Originally posted by Kramerman
                              I say once a year there should be a day when the world gets together in a 6 billion person, worldwide mass orgy we can call it Orgy Day.
                              "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                              "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                              "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                              • Indeed. But for now, the American intervention seems to enjoy a high popularity. Except if there is a major political blunder they shouldn't suffer from anthipathy until the Nigerians take their place.

                                You've got 10 year old government soldiers fighting while high on coke. This won't be a lovefest.
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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