The End of the Russian Arms industry

[The Vagabond]

Those interested in the Russian military industrial complex, check out its official online magazine:

http://www.milparade.com/

and especially the "buy online" section.

[Sirotnikov]

and plasma cloud generation to be used as a stealth device.

Tell more :drool:

[GePap]

What a gyp! You can't even buy any tanks.

[gopher]

Pssh.

Don't think that Ivan's crappy toys are the only budget weapondry on the planet. Try http://www.villainsupply.com/. They have competitive prices too!

[Carver]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

and plasma cloud generation to be used as a stealth device.

Tell more :drool:

From Jane's: this article is a little old but I continue to see stories on plasma clouds in magazines like Air Forces Monthly...


"A Russian scientific research organisation is to offer for export a 'bolt-on' stealth device that it claims renders non-stealthy aircraft practically invisible to radar. The system, which envelops the aircraft in a cloak of ionised gas known as a plasma, is said to be fully developed, with work on a "third-generation visibility-reduction system" under way.

Keldysh NITs (Nauchno-Issledovatelskiy Tsentr or Scientific Research Centre) is making the claims. According to its director, Anatoliy Koroteyev, the system weighs less than 100kg and consumes little more than several dozen kW of power.

Given the state of the Russian economy, analysts consider it unlikely that any of NITs' work has been applied to Russian Air Force aircraft. According to Koroteyev, however, the system will soon be offered for export.

By installing the system, a typical aircraft radar cross-section (RCS) might be cut "by more than 100 times", Keldysh NITs officials said. This would be much the same RCS as dedicated US stealth aircraft such as the Lockheed Martin F-117 stealth fighter and the Northrop Grumman B-2 stealth bomber.

The claims are given credence by corroborating information on the status of Russian aerospace plasma research acquired by Jane's Defence Weekly last year. Russian work in the use of plasmas that purported to reduce aircraft drag by as much as 30% was collated by British Aerospace (BAe) in the mid-1990s. BAe has since been trying to verify the Russian claims in experiments carried out jointly with the UK Defence Evaluation and Research Agency (DERA) and the UK Ministry of Defence (JDW 17 June 1998).

One of the spin-offs of 'plasma aerodynamics', Russian officials told BAe, was that it vastly reduced an aircraft's RCS. The absorption of radio waves by plasmas is well known as the communications black-out that a space vehicle encounters on re-entry is caused by the shielding effects of plasma. This builds naturally in front of the spacecraft as it hits the Earth's atmosphere and shocks the air to high temperature.

The same principle applies to the absorption of radar energy. Although the aircraft would appear to glow like a lightbulb, using plasma generators all around the airframe, it would be almost invisible on a radar screen, Russian officials maintain.

In the opinion of designers at Mikoyan and Sukhoi, the expense of all-embracing low-observable technology as applied in the US Air Force's F-117 and B-2 outweighs its effectiveness. Russians prefer to stress the 'balance' achieved in their latest-generation of fighter designs between aerodynamic efficiency and stealth. The Mikoyan 1-44 and Sukhoi S-37 technology demonstrators, both of which have been rolled out in the past 18 months, are supposed to make use of radar-absorbent paint and materials but are short of inherent stealth features.

Keldysh NITs said that "first- and second-" generation plasma-generators had been tested on the ground and in flight. The centre is working on a third-generation system "based on new physical principles", a possible reference to the use of electrostatic energy around an airframe to reduce RCS. Others believe the Russians could be attempting to duplicate secret work under way in the USA to make aircraft invisible to the human eye by using 'smart skins' that mimic their background."

(source: Jane's Defence Wekly, March 17, 1999)

[Kramerman]

hmmm...

Although the aircraft would appear to glow like a lightbulb, using plasma generators all around the airframe, it would be almost invisible on a radar screen, Russian officials maintain.

sounded good till right there. It would be indeed invisible to radar, which is helpful at avoiding lock on by radar guided missiles, but it would be even more vulnerable to infrared detection and IR guided weapons, or so it seems anyway

[Serb]

Re: The End of the Russian Arms industry

Originally posted by Lonestar
Or..."Oh Seerrrbbbb!"

Here I am.

Blah...blah...blah...
According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), Russia was 2002's most prolific exporter of armaments - surpassing even the US - with 36 percent of all global deliveries. Rus- sian factories supplied advanced fighter planes, tanks, warships, and other equipment to 60 countries last year, including India, China, Iran, Greece, Syria, and Algeria. Although SIPRI's method of counting volume rather than value has been challenged, Russia's rising arms trade has made it, by any measure, one of the top three global arms vendors - along with the US and Britain.
Blah...blah...blah...

The rest is bullsh!t.
During years since the fall of Soviet Union Russian arms export only increased. Currently Russia is only a second world's largest arms importer after USA. So, yes our arms industry is nearly dead. It's obvious.



P.S. Keep dreaming.

[Cruddy]

Re: Re: The End of the Russian Arms industry

Originally posted by Serb
Currently Russia is only a second world's largest arms importer after USA.

I think you mean exporter, not importer. Not that I doubted Russia's arms industry.

[Serb]

I hate Mondays. Of course I meant exporter.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Pekka
So.. it is only a matter of time when Karelia will be ours again... MUhaahahahha

Come and get it.

Tass, you have exceptional drawing skills.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Serb
Tass, you have exceptional drawing skills.

Spasiba, tovarish

[Serb]

Ka-50 Flying tank:

[Serb]

Mi-28 Flying tank:

[Ecthy]

and ionized gas isn't hot enough to be spotted on infrared monitoring?

[Serb]

T-80U. Flying tank:


(get lost Ecthelion you're destroying my flag waving show.