The End of the Russian Arms industry

[Pekka]

So.. it is only a matter of time when Karelia will be ours again... MUhaahahahha

[Cruddy]

Originally posted by Mordoch

... The F-22's electronics and radar system also leave the SU-37 in the dust.

I wouldn't disagree with any other part of your post, but this bit misses an important point.

All radar systems are detectable - all planes with radars on show up as dirty great blips to the detection units.

So it might have a great radar - but if it uses it, it's suddenly not stealthy at all.

[Mordoch]

Originally posted by Cruddy
I wouldn't disagree with any other part of your post, but this bit misses an important point.

All radar systems are detectable - all planes with radars on show up as dirty great blips to the detection units.

So it might have a great radar - but if it uses it, it's suddenly not stealthy at all.

Read my second post. The F-22 has a pasive radar system which avoids showing up as a great blip, it also can take advantage of AWACS and ground support radar and avoid using its own radar at all. Especially with the US Airforce's heavy employment of AWAC support there are plenty of situations where the F-22 can maintain its stealth charactoristics.

[BeBMan]

Passive radar? How exactly does that work? I can imagine passive IR sensors, but radar? Normally the enemy plane reflects the radar waves sent out by your own radar - if you don´t emit radar waves, there´s nothing to reflect. Or am I wrong?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Pekka
So.. it is only a matter of time when Karelia will be ours again... MUhaahahahha

What do we have over 10000 of that you dont have any of?

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000


What do we have over 10000 of that you dont have any of?

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[The Mad Monk]

BeBro, I suspect that like passive IR picks up and translates IR data it didn't generate, passive radar picks up and translates reflected signals from other sources.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Mordoch
The S-37 has no stealth charactoristics whatsoever, while the F-22 has the most advanced stealth system in the world.

Nope, the S-37 has got stealth. You just can't find a new prototype fighter without stealth anymore.

Originally posted by Mordoch
The F-22 has the supercruise ability, making it the only aircraft in the world able to go at mach speeds without using afterburners.

Why do you think the S-37 has got forward sweeping wings while the F-22 doesn't?

Originally posted by Mordoch
The F-22's electronics and radar system also leave the SU-37 in the dust.

Since nobody knows what exactly are the systems like on both, making such a statement is totally meaningless.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
BeBro, I suspect that like passive IR picks up and translates IR data it didn't generate, passive radar picks up and translates reflected signals from other sources.

Then it's not a radar.

[The Mad Monk]

Then what would you call it?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
Then what would you call it?

Beats me. For starters, you can't determine the range of a target if you are not transmitting.

Okay, not quite. If there's an active source, and you know the precise location of the active source at all times, you can also figure out the distance between you and the target.

[The Mad Monk]

You mean sources like AWACS, drones and satellites?

[Urban Ranger]

Well, first of all, most sources send out directional pulses. That's how you find out the direction of various targets. So that probably excludes AWACS and drones. Satellites are even worse because they move in and out of range all the time. Then movements of these objects make any precise calculations hellish.

Nah, you probably need a specially built fixed ground source.

[Carver]

Originally posted by Mordoch

The F-22 has the supercruise ability, making it the only aircraft in the world able to go at mach speeds without using afterburners. This allows the F-22 to use up far less fuel, allowing it stay at mach speeds for a much greater duration, a very handy ability for intercepting and closing with enemy aircraft.

Actually, the Eurofighter also has supercruise.

[Carver]

Thanks for the article Lonestar, it was a nice read but I don't buy it. The author seems to underappreciate that little more than a decade ago the USSR ended and Russia was reborn. Finances had to be directed at the civilian economy to ease the transition and help prepare for future economic growth. It's very good that the Russian military has shied away from major new procurements, especially considering that the new equipment is only marginally better than current Russian hardware.

The author is incorrect in stating there is little R&D going on in Russia. Research has led to developments like the MiG 1.42 (dubbed by some as the MiG-35), the Mi-28 attack helicopter, and plasma cloud generation to be used as a stealth device.

As in most countries, the health of the arms industry depends on the health of the non-military economy. If the civilian economy is strong then the government will have funds to purchase new equipment from Russian companies. Domestic Russian purchasing will keep the production cost down allowing exports to remain profitable.

I certainly hope the Russian industry stays healthy. Not just for Russia but for the Third World as well. If Russian industry suffers the Third World will become more dependent on the West, in turn paying higher prices but also having nowhere to turn in the case of Western arms embargoes.