Could the US mount an industrial effort equal the effort of WW2?

[Serb]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


They could have and should have, but didn't have the balls, because they were afraid of the backlash from their own pansy citizens who'd whine about another war. You had the NKVD for that, and Stalin didn't really have to be accountable to anybody. By the time Hitler was done in the west, had scrapped Sea Lion, and was heading through Greece and the Balkans, the writing on the wall should have been obvious.

I guess he had his own reasons. Soviet relationships with captalist countries weren't so warm before Germans invaded. Perhaps he just waited untill capitalists and fascists will destroy each other.

Troop training and combat doctrine counted for far more - look at Rasyeinya for one example - you didn't need a lot of stuff to deal with the Germans. Just a portion of what you had, applied competently, could have ripped the Panzertruppen from stem to stern.

Sure. Old doctrines are worse than old weapons. I don't remember who said this.
But in that feild Germans were far ahead of anyone else.

[David Floyd]

We will bury you, no matter what.

Yes, I'm scared of the non-existent Soviet Union with their tanks that have a propensity for blowing up

[Serb]

Good.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by David Floyd


Yes, I'm scared of the non-existent Soviet Union with their tanks that have a propensity for blowing up

We live in fear of the T-72.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Hell yeah - when an M829A1 or M829A2 hits one the right way, that turret can fly a hundred meter. Those things are dangerous.

[Dis]

didn't the Bradley's take those out a few months ago?

And the Bradley has less range than the T72. What does that say about the T72?

[Serb]

Why not kilometer? And why not T-34?
I guess T-90 can do the same with M60.
Yeah, and try to destroy turret of T-72 equiped with latest ERA and active defence system 'Arena'. General constructor of Abrams always looks like this smile-
" " (the same eyes) when he visit my home city and watch our active defense in action during military exchibition. Too bad that "superior" (my ass ) American tanks never had such system. And too bad that we don't sell it to him, no matter how hard he is begging for this.

have a nice day.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Dissident
didn't the Bradley's take those out a few months ago?

And the Bradley has less range than the T72. What does that say about the T72?

First of all I need confirmation. Untill I get it, I would consider this as fairytale. Sometimes, some manufacturers create a lot of amazing stories to sell their goods.
I heard that some Abrams were knocked out by anti-tank infantry weapons. What does that say about the Abrams?

[Dis]

well the anti-tank infantry weapons wouldn't be called anti-tank infantry weapons if they couldn't knock out tanks

[Serb]

It's very logical conclusion.
But if I remember correctly Bradley has anti-tank missiles as well.

[Seeker]

In order to tweak the Bears Nose, does anyone have a link to the Bradley vs T-72 thread from the war?

You know, the one where the weakest US equipment went up against the strongest Iraqis, armed only with 25mm light cannon

[Urban Ranger]

If in fact the turret of a T-72 flew back a hundred metres, you need anti-tank missiles. The 30mm chain gun just doesn't cut it.

[Main_Brain]

There is only one answer to nuclear attacks: Total War and massive retaliation.

Historically the only Answer to a Nuclear Attack is immediate Surrender.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Seeker
In order to tweak the Bears Nose, does anyone have a link to the Bradley vs T-72 thread from the war?

Don't worry. I remember it.

You know, the one where the weakest US equipment went up against the strongest Iraqis, armed only with 25mm light cannon

You forget about 'Hellfire' missiles. 25mm light cannon aside Hellfire missiles can't seriously harm armor of MBT.

[Lonestar]

Serb, the T-34 and most immediate postWar designs where based on the American "Christie" tank suspension aquired in the '30's.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/t-34.htm