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  • Could the US mount an industrial effort equal the effort of WW2?

    By the end of WW2 we had 111 aircraft carriers, thousands of liberty ships, tanks, bombers, fighters, submarines and battleships in greater quantity than any other country. We had supplied the British, Russian, Chinese and recontituted French with various weapons and vehicles. Truly, the US was the arsenal of democracy.

    Could the US do it again?
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  • #2
    I think so, but it must be simular situation..
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    • #3
      Seeing as The US's militairy budget is bigger then the 10 countries put together I'd say you're not that far of.
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      • #4
        Hmm... well, the manufacturing capacity is there, but the big difference is that the weapons of today are a lot more complex to make and operate...

        Which means they take longer to make, and the personnel training takes longer to do.

        Probably not in the same quantity or at the same speed as the end of WW2 - but all things considered, a lot more firepower than the WW2 equivalents.

        Mind you, who are you going to use it against?
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        • #5
          On the other, you need less weapons to achieve the same results...
          Should even out, no?
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          Mind you, who are you going to use it against?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cruddy

            Mind you, who are you going to use it against?
            Let's say Islamic terrorists detonate a nuke in a major US city, the President (whoever on that succession list survives) decides to begin the total mobilization, both to avoid an economic collapse and to carry out the total war against our enemy.

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            • #7
              Wouldn't that result in other non-US countries mobilizing?

              I'm not saying I want to see nukes in ANY city, US or not... but I don't see it as a solution to preventing a repeat.

              Pulling forces out of Saudi Arabia might just do the trick.
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              • #8
                Re: Could the US mount an industrial effort equal the effort of WW2?

                Originally posted by Lancer
                By the end of WW2 we had 111 aircraft carriers, thousands of liberty ships, tanks, bombers, fighters, submarines and battleships in greater quantity than any other country.
                It's not true. Russians always had more tanks and much more superior tanks then USA.
                Have a nice day.

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                • #9
                  Serb, yeah, but they were obsolete since all you need was molotovs cocktail .

                  In case some terrorists pulls out the nuke stunt, I can see no other results than many countries supporting the US IN combat, mobilizing fast in fear of further attacks plus other retaliations by non-friendly countries who are also paranoid. Everyone gets armed and moving fast, resulting to something we can't predict.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Re: Could the US mount an industrial effort equal the effort of WW2?

                    Originally posted by Serb
                    It's not true. Russians always had more tanks and much more superior tanks then USA.
                    Have a nice day.
                    That's funny Serb. It's true that the Russians concentraited disproportionately on tanks but in every other way the US was superior. Soviet tanks were largely based off of a pre-war American design (the Soviets continued to use the same basic American suspension design through to the 1960s) and captured war time German designs which were reverse engineered. Plus all the way to the end of 1944 the bulk of the Soviet Tank Corp was pre-war in both design and date of manufacture so you really can't say that a stock pile of older tanks is equal to much newer and more advanced models other powers were putting out.

                    ?Add to that something like 1/4 of all Soviet military supplies can from the west and most of their bomber, fighter, submarine, and ship designs were rip offs from other powers (mostly the US/UK but a few German) and you can see that the Soviets were mostly followers and not leaders. Very good followers but certainly not on the cutting edge.

                    As for manufacturing output the Soviet's could never get any where near the US even with the slave labor Stalin used.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Re: Could the US mount an industrial effort equal the effort of WW2?

                      Originally posted by Serb

                      It's not true. Russians always had more tanks and much more superior tanks then USA.
                      Have a nice day.
                      It's remarkable then, how many of these "much more superior" tanks are scattered in pieces over the Middle East... or lined up as battle booty in Israel.

                      Good job you didn't sell them with a money back guarantee.

                      Mind you, WW2 Russki tanks were very good for the time - but times change.
                      Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cruddy
                        Wouldn't that result in other non-US countries mobilizing?

                        I'm not saying I want to see nukes in ANY city, US or not... but I don't see it as a solution to preventing a repeat.

                        Pulling forces out of Saudi Arabia might just do the trick.
                        So you think we should just cave in and drop dead if we get nuked.

                        I doubt even Euro lefties are as wimpy as that.

                        There is only one answer to nuclear attacks: Total War and massive retaliation.

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                        • #13
                          No, at least not to the standard of the current American armed forces. Those gizmos are just too costly.

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                          • #14
                            Sure it could. If some other country actually mounts any respectable (ie: not irregular, no mass surrenders, no 15-30 years old equipment) kind of conventional resistance that represents some credible threat to US lives/interests (ie: no Iraq, Iran, etc.). It'd take at least ~1 year though, if all goes well....

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lord Merciless


                              So you think we should just cave in and drop dead if we get nuked.

                              I doubt even Euro lefties are as wimpy as that.

                              There is only one answer to nuclear attacks: Total War and massive retaliation.
                              How do you retaliate against a terrorist organization which doesn't leave a return address?
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