San Francisco Protest Brings Debate on Wages of Din

[Odin]

Originally posted by The Templar


Right, one of those catch-all/the-police-just-don't-like-your-ass charges. An excuse to bust people for standing while poor or black (or both). What's next? Unauthorized use of a milk crate for sitting on the corner?

That is exactly what I was thinking.

[Ben Kenobi]

Doesn't that violate the constitution? you can't have permits for protests because that restricts when a protest may take place, and because we are all human, the city officials might give a desicion on political grounds without thinking.

It is easy to protest lawfully, just stay on the sidewalks, don't break stuff and don't hurt the people that walk by.

If you think the US has limitations, you should come to Canada.

[The Templar]

Originally posted by Odin
If we commies make a protest, we're gonna want to bring the city crashing down.

I'll settle for MtG having a conniption while stuck in traffic.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Odin
UNLAWFUL ASSEMBLY! Doesn't that violate the constitution?

Not in the slightest. Been done in the courts and everything. It's only an issue if the assembly is declared unlawful without a valid reason. Ever heard of "riots?" The police have powers to prevent those, if they see one developing that hasn't reach that state.

The specifc language in the First Amendment is: "the right of the people to peaceably assemble"

you can't have permits for protests because that restricts when a protest may take place, and because we are all human, the city officials might give a desicion on political grounds without thinking.

Small, spontaneous protests on public property don't need permits. Large organized ones present traffic, safety, public services (imagine the million man march without portacans ) and other issues, and they do require a permit. The million man march had both DC and Federal permits. The law is that ministerial action in granting or denying the permit has to be based on compelling public interests, not on content or other political reasons without a basis in a compelling public interest.

Protesters WANT to disturb normal activities because they don't want to be ignored, they want people to know they mean business. If we commies make a protest, we're gonna want to bring the city crashing down.

Then don't ***** and whine when the cops bring their sticks crashing down on your heads, or when Bubba in the county jail has his "stick" crashing up to the base of your cranium while you're in the holding cell.

If you want to break the law, and conspire to do so, just be man enough to pay the price of admission, don't be little sissy *****es in court. Lenin wasn't a sissy *****.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by The Templar


Right, one of those catch-all/the-police-just-don't-like-your-ass charges. An excuse to bust people for standing while poor or black (or both). What's next? Unauthorized use of a milk crate for sitting on the corner?

If they're sitting out of line, maybe.

[The Templar]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Then don't ***** and whine when the cops bring their sticks crashing down on your heads, or when Bubba in the county jail has his "stick" crashing up to the base of your cranium while you're in the holding cell.

If you want to break the law, and conspire to do so, just be man enough to pay the price of admission, don't be little sissy *****es in court. Lenin wasn't a sissy *****.

A conniption in the OT is also funny ...

[MichaeltheGreat]

No conniption at all. I think it's comedic that anarchists and revolutionaries whine like third-grade schoolgirls about their "rights" under a system they want to destroy.

If you're gonna be a rough, tough, bandolero-totin', cigar smokin' he-man revolutionary, be one. If you're gonna act like a whiny liberal or sphincter-locked social conservative, it ruins the whole revo-commie-anarcho act.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Odin
UNLAWFUL ASSEMBLY! Doesn't that violate the constitution?

No. Don't be an idiot.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by The Templar


I'll settle for MtG having a conniption while stuck in traffic.

I'd just see how many commies I could find a legal excuse to bust their heads or run over.

[Thorn]

Hmm... perhaps they should hire me if they really want to avoid being persecuted by you MtG.

You break the backs of 10 protestors, I'd break the backs of 1000 police officers.

Good thing I'm not for the commie movement eh?

[MichaeltheGreat]

I doubt you could break anything much tougher than one of your fingernails.

[Thorn]

They're not nails, THEY'RE CLAWS!

[Ben Kenobi]

sphincter-locked social conservative,

You don't make many friends now do you, MtG.

[MichaeltheGreat]

I didn't say they were all like that. Same with whiny liberals - I actually know a few who can communicate their ideas without whining. Unfortunately, they seem to get drowned out.

[mindseye]

mindseye - were you around SF back when that SFPD academy graduating class and their instructors had a little field exercise in Peg's Place? What morons.

Peg's Place sounds familiar, but I think that was before my time in SF. Was that after the Dan White verdict?

as long as it's their democracy, at their convenience, and without too much work.

Hey, it comes with the turf. San Francisco and Berkeley have a duty to the rest of the nation, ya know.

, just be man enough to pay the price of admission, don't be little sissy *****es in court

Be a man? One of the plaintiffs is an old lady!