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Originally posted by Ecthelion
you said I could find all the info on the IDF site, I said I don't trust it, I prefer my own, western sites, you said they quote the PA, I reacted, you contradict yourself. you're just trying to do what your people can do best - twist it all around until it fits your cause
go home
PS: quite honestly, why do some of these guys fit perfectly in all those negative clichees?
learn to read , read the messages , they are not even edited , ..... read them !
and even that still does not justify you posting insults or trolling here with stupid remarks , ...
Originally posted by Ecthelion
Edan, please. you should have been able to follow the logics. Unless you're panag 2. In that case, go home.
Where do personal insults fit in logic?
"I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen
Originally posted by Ecthelion
Edan, sources logic, please. what reason would I have to trust an IDF site? it's a conflict party, so simple.
I never argued that you should trust an IDF site. I gave a reason why you shouldn't trust a Palestinian site, and I took issues with your personal insults.
I'm no fan of panag, but I haven't seen him spouting personal insults in every post of his.
"I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen
Originally posted by Ecthelion
panag, Agathon is being sarcastic.... and if not, he's to be ignored. like Eli
At least somebody gets it.
To the Israelis here: sure you have an interest in what's going on, but you can't expect everyone to agree with you all the time.
If you can't see that the Palestinians have been hard done by, both by Israel and by the World Community, then I despair for you. These people are living under a form of apartheid. It's a bit unfair to expect them to play nice when they don't get any joy from anyone and the supposed "impartial" negotiator just isn't. They have no vote or civil rights - do you expect them to just lie down and take it?
Israel is going to have to give up a lot to make things better - and it should, by rights, give up a lot more. Under the United Nations declaration of human rights everyone has a right to return to his or her country. This goes for the Palestinian refugees no less than anyone else. The only reason Israel has for stopping them returning to their own country is that Arabs would wield a great deal more electoral power in Israel than they currently do. Most civilised countries do not prevent immigration on basis of race and to run a country based on purity of race is anathema to the most basic notions of human rights.
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