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  • #16
    What crimes of capitalism?
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #17
      Azazel missed his meds today.


      Go students!
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Azazel
        IIRC, the economic market reforms were introduced earlier than that. How about we call it the crimes of the capitalist system?


        I am sorry that I have to do this. I just came to say that I think that what happened was indeed terrible, and outrageous. But, SOME people try to make a point out of it.
        How about we remember that the crimes were ordered by leaders of the Chinese Communist Party, who still decree themselves to be the sole political authority in China.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Fez
          The Truth of Communism:


          He'd have stood a chance with a spear in Civ3!

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          • #20
            All those lined up tanks would make a nice, target rich environment for an A-10 or a couple of Longbow Apaches, eh?

            In any case, I'd like to see any resident Chinese defending Tiananmen Square - WITHOUT picking on the US. Although there is plenty to pick on, I'll grant almost every single point, and in any case we're talking about China, not the US.
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            • #21
              A sad day.

              -Arrian
              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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              • #22
                He'd have stood a chance with a spear in Civ3!


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                • #23
                  Not a very good chance.

                  -Arrian
                  grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                  The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by David Floyd
                    All those lined up tanks would make a nice, target rich environment for an A-10
                    You mean paint Union Jacks on them?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Arrian
                      Not a very good chance.

                      -Arrian
                      He'd have been the betting favourite before the first patch came out!

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                      • #26
                        The Truth of Communism:


                        What crimes of capitalism?

                        and again
                        That really the best you can do??
                        -

                        That's one of the pictures that I'll never forget.

                        One of the few times a real hero stood up, as Arrian said, a sad day...
                        (they killed him a soon after btw.)
                        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                        Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                        • #27
                          In any case, I'd like to see any resident Chinese defending Tiananmen Square - WITHOUT picking on the US. Although there is plenty to pick on, I'll grant almost every single point, and in any case we're talking about China, not the US.
                          Where the hell is everyone?!

                          Anyway:


                          If the demonstrators had gotten what they wanted, China would have been grandly screwed. A Russia-times-100 anarchy would have plunged the Chinese people into misery that few of us (American OR Chinese) can even fathom today.

                          Is it right to kill one innocent to save the lives of one hundred?

                          I'm sure a lot of you think that, in retrospect, the Iraqi War was a good thing. Many Iraqis died under tragic circumstances, but in the long-term, Iraq will become a much nicer place for future generations.

                          [Yes. I know the circumstances are not the same. But the same moral judgement comes into play: that's the one in bold above.]

                          So, why the double standard?

                          I'll allow Tingkai and UR to make the comparisons to the Vietnam War demonstrations.
                          Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroff

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Fez
                            No, we mean Communism. I don't care if somebody is a ultra-leftist stalinist, ultra-leftist trotykist or ultra-left windbag, or whatever.. they are all the same. The same basic philosophy which falls into the murder of thousands upon thousands, and in some cases millions.
                            Right..........

                            Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the Pinochet, Videla and Franco supporter?

                            Oy, I forgot, they did what they had to do to stop the evil Communists. Consider this post non-written...
                            Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                            And notifying the next of kin
                            Once again...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by David Floyd
                              In any case, I'd like to see any resident Chinese defending Tiananmen Square - WITHOUT picking on the US.
                              You might as well tell some (thinking of one in particular) of them not to post at all then.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Hueij

                                Right..........

                                Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the Pinochet, Videla and Franco supporter?
                                Yes on Franco.. Videla absolutely not.. he didn't do anything for Argentina besides murder. And Pinochet.. well he murdered people.. but he did good for the Chilean economy.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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