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"They probably have Austrian bank accounts this time Nazeem."
Probably?
"Just give 'em a number and they'll bend over for anybody!"
You're confusing our bankers with your congressmen, yankee.
“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)
Yeah right I'm sure he had those expectations to turn around one of the biggest sh1tholes on the face of this earth into Johnny Rockets.
Nice strawman there Rico.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
Originally posted by HershOstropoler
"They probably have Austrian bank accounts this time Nazeem."
Probably?
"Just give 'em a number and they'll bend over for anybody!"
You're confusing our bankers with your congressmen, yankee.
Did you guys ever pay back the Jews all of the money the Nazis took from them?
Oh wait that was Switzerland? I get all you Barbarians mixed up.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
"There's a difference between emotion and countertroll. "
I'm trolling?
"The rabble in the street bit was fairly minor, and didn't lead to the conclusion that popular elections would resoundingly *****slap Musharraf. Some loss of support was expected, but US officials admitted surprise at the strength of the Islamist parties' showing in the elections. Most of the Islamic world was willing to let the Taleban hang - even the Iranians and Saudis had a sort of Fallwell-Phelps thing going with the Taleban. "
What!? That's simply wrong. IIRC even in secular Turkey opposition was around 70% or so for the Afghanistan War. Heck, the Islamic World was never fully convinced that it was Bin Laden responsible for 9/11 in the first place. As for the rabble in the street, all of the media coverage I saw at the time indicated strong Taliban sympathies all throughout Pakistan and people were very quick to rush to the street shouting "Bush! I kill you!" Personally I think we have done well in that Musharaff has simply been able to maintain his presidency.
"The US did have a significant opportunity at the time of the Afghani Loya Jurga to provide greater support those Afghani Pashtun tribal leaders who have close ethnic ties with the NWFP Pakistanis, but failed to do that. "
What!? We had a Pashtun imposed for to be the Premier of that country, Harmid Karzai, and allowed the King to return. What we could do there was very limited since the non-Pashtun Northern Alliance was militarily victorious, and it would have been really messy trying to resist them.
"This having nothing to do with foreign policy must mean that the beheading of Daniel Pearl, the burning of US flags, repeated anti-US demonstrations are all just random events, and like the joke about hiring a retired US Army sergeant to translate your slogans, these guys had no idea what flag they were burning. "
You misunderstood what I meant. I did not mean that this action had no implications for US policy. I meant suggesting that the decision of those Pakistan who implimented these Sharia laws had something to do with endorsement or nonendorsement of our policies was foolish. They are imposing fundmentalist laws because they are fundamentalists.
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Originally posted by Ted Striker
Yeah right I'm sure he had those expectations to turn around one of the biggest sh1tholes on the face of this earth into Johnny Rockets.
Nice strawman there Rico.
Hey, Abbott. Nah, I don't think even Bush is actually dumb enough to take the pablum his advisors spout as their policy goals seriously.
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Did you guys ever pay back the Jews all of the money the Nazis took from them?
Most of it, although late.
How is your restitution of 99 % of the country to native americans going, yankee?
“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)
Just a "little bit", huh? I'm sure it's useful to them now that most of them are dead.
How is your restitution of 99 % of the country to native americans going, yankee?
We're still waiting on Spain, France, Portugal, Netherlands, Britain, and Russia to foot 75% of the bill.
I'm sure they have some dirty Old World money stashed away in Austria somewhere to pay for it, though
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
"Just a "little bit", huh? I'm sure it's useful to them now that most of them are dead."
You're confusing restitution and compensation. But as you have to get your information from the crappiest media in the western world, I can't blame you.
"I'm sure they have some dirty Old World money stashed away in Austria somewhere to pay for it, though"
Florentines? Ducats?
“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)
Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
"There's a difference between emotion and countertroll. "
I'm trolling?
"What would you have done then, Mr. Foreign policy genious? Let OBL continue to sit pretty and safely?"
Yes, it was a serious response that the only possible way to respond was to let OBL continue to sit pretty.
"The rabble in the street bit was fairly minor, and didn't lead to the conclusion that popular elections would resoundingly *****slap Musharraf. Some loss of support was expected, but US officials admitted surprise at the strength of the Islamist parties' showing in the elections. Most of the Islamic world was willing to let the Taleban hang - even the Iranians and Saudis had a sort of Fallwell-Phelps thing going with the Taleban. "
What!? That's simply wrong. IIRC even in secular Turkey opposition was around 70% or so for the Afghanistan War. Heck, the Islamic World was never fully convinced that it was Bin Laden responsible for 9/11 in the first place. As for the rabble in the street, all of the media coverage I saw at the time indicated strong Taliban sympathies all throughout Pakistan and people were very quick to rush to the street shouting "Bush! I kill you!" Personally I think we have done well in that Musharaff has simply been able to maintain his presidency.
There are different levels of opposition in the Islamic world. "No, I don't like the pork-eating infidels" isn't quite the same as strapping on a dynamite belt and screaming "Allahu Akhbar!"
The demonstrations in Pakistan were a few hundred to 2-3000, who promptly got their heads busted and their asses chased off by water cannon. Prior to all this crap, popular support for the Taleban in Afghanistan was limited almost exclusively to the Pashtun minority.
"The US did have a significant opportunity at the time of the Afghani Loya Jurga to provide greater support those Afghani Pashtun tribal leaders who have close ethnic ties with the NWFP Pakistanis, but failed to do that. "
What!? We had a Pashtun imposed for to be the Premier of that country, Harmid Karzai, and allowed the King to return. What we could do there was very limited since the non-Pashtun Northern Alliance was militarily victorious, and it would have been really messy trying to resist them.
Messy trying to resist them? They'd just had their leader blown all over a tent because he was hot to give a TV interview, and the Taleban started a general offensive to drive the NA out of the remaining 5 percent or so of Afghanistan that they'd held. Without us, they would have been overrun. The only way they could "challenge" us was because we'd decided at the time not to commit significant ground forces and we had a few SOF teams operating in the middle of them. It's not like they would ever have stood up to something like the 10MD. We had the capability to own the little guys and deal with the big fish that actually constitute half the population.
And so what, we gave them token Karzai? Then the US and the rest of the allies promptly decided the ****hole wasn't worth pouring much money into (despite those inconvenient promises we made, but hey honey, that was last night. Today's a new day! Oh, but I'm gonna be late to work, I'll give you a call later. ) Karzai would have a bit more clout in both directions if he had decent resources to work with.
You misunderstood what I meant. I did not mean that this action had no implications for US policy. I meant suggesting that the decision of those Pakistan who implimented these Sharia laws had something to do with endorsement or nonendorsement of our policies was foolish. They are imposing fundmentalist laws because they are fundamentalists.
They ran for office on a "**** Uncle Sam" platform, and were elected on that platform. NWFP has been full of fundamentalists as long as there have been modern fundies. Al Maududi, who along with al Qutb is the inspirational source for modern fundamentalism, was from that area. Despite that, in four decades, popular support for fundamentalists has risen since the US got in bed with Musharraf. That wasn't the aim.
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Serious answer: **** our collective pants. There's no way the US will ever preemptively nuke anyone. There's no assurance of getting their weapons, and the howling from the rest of the world would be incessant.
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I don't get it. Are we supposed to nation builders now? No one is ever going to change these fanatical nut cakes. Maybe MTG has the perfect plan to "make the world a perfect place to sing in harmony" (sung to the tune of "we are the world.." We are all going to be blown up some day anyway. The buck may as well stop here. I'll be in Thailand watching you suckers trying to figure out what to do when the Apolyton server is radioactive...
Originally posted by Ted Striker
This little side excursion story set in the middle of bum-f*ck-nowheresville Pakistan means nothing against the greater backdrop of what's going on.
uhmmm... Pakis have the bomb
You should be worried about fundamentalism in that country.
Originally posted by Lincoln
Maybe MTG has the perfect plan to "make the world a perfect place to sing in harmony" (sung to the tune of "we are the world.."
Well that's actually the neocon vision, just maybe with a different song....
Reminds me of famous last political words: "If you got visions, you need a doctor".
“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)
) Karzai would have a bit more clout in both directions if he had decent resources to work with.
I'll be in Thailand watching you suckers trying to figure out what to do when the Apolyton server is radioactive...
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