Apolyton Military Rollcall....

[Panag]

Originally posted by TheStinger


Is it because the Iraeli army promotes idiots away from areas they could cause any problems

hi ,

must be , this has to be the only non Israeli or Jewish site inwhere the top 10 of Israeli posters are either officers or on the way to become one , ........

not a single nco , .... or soldier , .....

time to change that , .....

have a nice day

[Az]

nothing to be surprised of. People who play civ are usually a bunch of nerds and pansies.

[TheStinger]

I certainly am

[Az]

but I thought you were an International crime fighting playboy?

[Tingkai]

Re: Re: Apolyton Military Rollcall....

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
All I know is all my friends who joined all came back as the same person. Out of five close friends in high school, four of us joined the military, three served. Three of us joined the Air Farce, one the Navy.

How were they the same?

Was it that they had all changed and had shared similar experiences that were completely different from yours, neither better nor worse but just different?

[ThePlagueRat]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

Sirotnikov, go out and make peace.
Don't shoot anybody! I guess your army is most likely to recieve/deliver kills. If you read our discussion above, you'll understand. War is meaningless... think about that nice redhaired chick.

I won't be shooting anyone, unless they charge at me in a busy israeli street. I won't have a gun for part of the service, and the other part I may have a pistol, as I will be an officer.

I'm not going to be a grunt. More of a desk job

Good for you... 'Cause you are going to meet a very unsecure future. I guess there will be some huge wars down there in the future, so I guess it's your job to make sure peace will last as long as possible? Please don't follow orders if they involve killing people. It's been done before you know.

[Dis]

prototype?

the former ship Daniel Webster SSBN 626. That's an S5W reactor. Nice and obsolete

[Cruddy]

I never served. The reasons were my education could only get me one of 2 places;

1) Royal Marines officer. I would NEVER had completed the physical training (I was a wreck at the time - I would have tried and died).

2) Only other possibility was bomb disposal. As Northern Ireland was all the rage this would have probably been as dangerous if not more than option 1.

Am I a coward? You bet.

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by Azazel
but I thought you were an International crime fighting playboy?

By day I am a lowly government employee by night I'm in monacco with the ladies

[Tingkai]

Well Che, you didn't respond. Maybe you're busy. But I started thinking about this and came up with some interesting examples to show that the military does not turn people into one type of personality.

The interesting thing about looking at this question is that it explores why people think differently and it can help us understand how people behave. The caveat being that this is not an expert analysis.

But I'll propose the hypothesis that the way people express themselves on Poly is linked to the jobs they do and their academic training.

For this analysis I'll use three people: mtg, gp and myself. Now I'll include myself because I come from a very different part of the military than mtg and gp. By no means am I suggesting that I'm even close to their expertise. They are professionals with proven backgrounds. I was an amatuer.

Mtg was a combat soldier. That means he was trained to achieve objectives in an unknown environment. If he was told to take and control a town, he would have limited information about the environment. He doesn't know if a group of enemy soldiers is in the woods or a building. The situation is always changing because both sides are moving about. Add to this the fact that he has seconds to analyze the situation and to make the correct decision.

GP was, if I remember correctly, an officer on a sub in charge of nuclear reactors. He was dealing with a known, but highly complex environment. He needs a different type of intelligence, an intelligence that can understand complex systems. By contrast, mtg is dealing with fairly basic technology. He doesn't need to know the technology that will deliver a bomb from an aircraft exactly where he wants it. He just wants the bomb on target.


GP also deals with different problems than mtg. GP starts with a given situation and must ensure that the system remains at an optimal point.

As for myself, I was a part-time military instructor. My job involved teaching people information. I need to understand how people think and how they learn. And I deal only with thought process which is completely different from gp and mtg. They deal with the physical world, although they also have to understand leadership and that involves understanding how people think, behave and react. Again, they know how to do things that I cannot imagine.

Now take these different backgrounds and look at how each of us behave.

MTG left the military and eventually became an entrepreneur. That perfectly suited to his military experience and the way he approaches problems. As a businessman, he is dealing with unknown environments where he applies techniques that should achieve a desired outcome.

Gp earned a Phd in chemistry. Again, this is a natural. His military training involved understanding complex equations and concepts.

I'm a journalist which ties in with being a military instructor because both jobs involve communication and knowing what needs to be said so that people will understand what I want to communicate.

The three of us have different personalities and these personalities can be seen on Poly.

Mtg tends to only post messages where he will be correct. In a broad sense, his goal is to win the battle and he won't fight a battle that he knows he might lose.

Gp tends to post messages on academic level, except when he is drunk, and he tends to prefer talking with people who understand the complex concepts that he know (at least on poly, on CG he's more easy going). He's looking for an intellectual challange on what he knows and few of us can challenge him because we don't have the necessary background information.

I'm argumentative and I'll go on for ages trying to get people to understand my point. Just like a teacher, and just like a teacher I'll keep arguing even if I'm wrong.

So, three people all with military training, all with different personalities and all with different approaches to life.

Now the thing that could be interesting, to anyone who has read this incredibly long post, is to look at the ex-military Poly posters, look at what they did in the military and then see if that matches or explains how they post on Poly.

[Wittlich]

Originally posted by Cruddy
I never served. The reasons were my education could only get me one of 2 places;

1) Royal Marines officer. I would NEVER had completed the physical training (I was a wreck at the time - I would have tried and died).

2) Only other possibility was bomb disposal. As Northern Ireland was all the rage this would have probably been as dangerous if not more than option 1.

Am I a coward? You bet.

Well put Cruddy!

[Panag]

Originally posted by Dissident
prototype?

the former ship Daniel Webster SSBN 626. That's an S5W reactor. Nice and obsolete

hi ,

> http://members.aol.com/RidesSubs/626.html

obsolete , what ya expect , they where build at the end of the sixties , ......

have a nice day

[Mao]

Small question, on the dress blues uniform, what do those little tick marks on the lower sleeve (between the elbow and the wrist) signify? I'm not talking about the stripes of course, I know what they mean. Do they signify warrant officer status? What determines how many you get?

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Mao
Small question, on the dress blues uniform, what do those little tick marks on the lower sleeve (between the elbow and the wrist) signify? I'm not talking about the stripes of course, I know what they mean. Do they signify warrant officer status? What determines how many you get?

On the US navy Dress Blue uniform, they signify years of service. When I was in every stripe meant 4 years of service, but, from what I've heard it means 2 years of service now, same as the other branches of the US military.

ACK!

[Panag]

Originally posted by Mao
Small question, on the dress blues uniform, what do those little tick marks on the lower sleeve (between the elbow and the wrist) signify? I'm not talking about the stripes of course, I know what they mean. Do they signify warrant officer status? What determines how many you get?

hi ,

> http://marineshop.safeshopper.com/17/cat17.htm?1
>http://www.lifelines2000.org/service...asp?RootID=439

have a nice day