Immigration

[Solly]

The immigrants aren't doing enough to integrate themselves.

They should support England (since that's the British country where most 'grunts end up) in sporting events, for example.

[Az]

This is a very small aspect of integration.

[Solly]

But a very good proxy for all the other aspects, it seems.

[Az]

Could be.

[Kropotkin]

Boddington, I fail to see how their interests and affections in sports has to do with anything.

[Solly]

It's that they see themselves as primarily foreign, and a member of this country's society somewhere down the list.

They should see themselves as British.

[Al B. Sure!]

from what I heard the BNP is the only british party with any concern for the working classes, especially the religious poor...

anyway, why are immigrants coming to England? See here in the US, things are quite different as first of all, most immigrants have no intention of being Americans... they only come here for a few years to make some money then go back home... and the other thing is, we have hordes of illegal immigrants who also got no intention of being Americans but basically want to gain economically (even though they work minimum wage or below it's still more then they'd make in their countries).

my opinion is that if you got no intention of being an american, don't bother coming here. otherwise, you're just taking jobs from the American poor and middle class...

sometimes i got the feeling that the leftist elite in america (and probably england too) are just trying to destroy the poor and lower middle class by denying them jobs and giving all the jobs to some foreigners.

[Kropotkin]

With that logic a person that moves from for example Sunderland to Liverpool has to switch sympaties from Sunderland to Liverpool/Everton. That's absurd. People should be able to define themselves as whatever they want. You don't have to be assimilated to be integrated.

[Solly]

"anyway, why are immigrants coming to England?"

Some free and not having to work.

[Az]

I think you wanted to use the smiley.

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
from what I heard the BNP is the only british party with any concern for the working classes, especially the religious poor...

Sorry I'm not sure if you are joking or not.

But on the basis you are not.

Thats Bollocks, the BNP are racist facists who wouldn't know a coherent policy if it sig heiled itself in their collective ignorant faces.

[Al B. Sure!]

Spink:

i swore you used to be somewhat of a leftist but since you became Nimrod/Boddingtons you're a far-rightist. what happened?

[Solly]

"i swore you used to be somewhat of a leftist but since you became Nimrod/Boddingtons you're a far-rightist. what happened?"

Everyone is centre-left during their teens. Some people just grow out of quicker than others, I guess.

[Al B. Sure!]

TheStinger:

i dont know... thats what the political compass site said... that basically with Labour turning capitalist and the socialist partys becoming very socially liberal, all the religious poor only had the BNP as their voice.

[Al B. Sure!]

Spink:

Everyone is a center-leftist in their teens?