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  • #16
    I wouldn't change much. I lead a pretty 'moral' life in the Judeo-Christian sense.
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    You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

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    • #17
      I would tell 'it' to sod off and find a new universe to sr*w up.

      (oh and before he/she/it goes, to wipe out all spambots )
      Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
      Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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      • #18
        Most likely, such evidence wouldn't change my actions to any significant degree.

        I've never cared much for taking orders from humans due to their power. And the same would hold true for a deity.
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        • #19
          My actions wouldn't change.

          Although I might possibly start a thread on Apolyton letting others know of the proof.
          I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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          • #20
            maybe that's what CivNation was all about
            "Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
            You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez

            "I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui

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            • #21
              I don't think I would change much. I already have plenty of evidence of his existence. An earth shattering revelation would be embarrassing to me because it would expose my lack of faith in one who has been so faithful to me. And I agree that an undisputed revelation would not convert most die hard atheists. In time they would explain it away.

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              • #22
                you'll never find proof of God's existence by looking for it, but as soon as you stop looking for proof, stop begging for it, stop demanding it... it will come, and often in the strangest of ways

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Rogan Josh
                  I think most atheists would find some way to 'rationalise' it away, no matter how startling the revalation. No conclusion is inescapable, so they would just block it out and go back to living as they always did. They could always put it down to a mass halucination of something.
                  Of course, a believer will always push his god back further when it is shown that no supernatural entity is required at a particular level.

                  Yes, they even posit that their god is completely beyond anything we know, including logic and laws of nature.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Hypothetical: Divinity directly revealed to you

                    Originally posted by Big Crunch
                    This is directed at believers of a religion as much as atheists and agnostics.

                    Suppose an event occured that would lead you to the inescapable conclusion that the world around us was created by a divinity. The event can be something only you witnessed, that a group of you witnessed or even the entire world witnessed. The event may be a scientific and peer reviewed study with an extremely high degree of accuracy. Basically the event is something that would convince you of the existence of a divinity without room for doubt.

                    Assume the divinity is of a Judo-Christian-Islam leaning.

                    How would that knowledge effect your life?
                    Assume the divinity is not of a Judeo-Christianity leaning.

                    How would that knowledge affect your life, esp. when you are a Christian?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                      Yes, they even posit that their god is completely beyond anything we know, including logic and laws of nature.
                      Isn't that the very definition of 'omnipotent'?

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                      • #26
                        As said before, I'd double and triple check all facts. Then, I'd probably believe in god. But my behaviour wouldn't change much. Why do I have to think that this god wants me to not drive on saturday, abstain from mastrubation, etc.?
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                        • #27
                          It wouldn't change anything. Why? Because even if I know there's a J/C/I deity running the show, I haven't a clue as to what He wants or expects from me. Assuming that my "knowledge" of him is just knowledge of his existence and not of His will, I don't know a thing about Him -- because all I've got is this Bible/Koran thingie, and that's our creation, not His.

                          Alternatively, I suppose, the Bible could really be His word -- in which case I now have proof that all existence is presides over by a misogynistic, homophobic, sadistic meglomaniac. Again, no biggie; I've worked under that kind of a$$hole before.
                          "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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                          • #28
                            How would that knowledge effect your life?

                            I'm interested in whether Christians with absolute knowledge (as opposed to faith) in their God would become more devout.
                            Depends on what you mean by 'revelation'. I have seen, as some of the other Christians, evidence for God in my life.

                            Besides, God's there when I need to talk to Him anyways.

                            got is this Bible/Koran thingie, and that's our creation, not His.
                            Rufus:

                            Technically, it's his creation anyway because are we not all a part of God's creation?

                            UR:
                            Assume the divinity is not of a Judeo-Christianity leaning.

                            How would that knowledge affect your life, esp. when you are a Christian?
                            Without further clarification, I would conclude that these were demons.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by obiwan18
                              Rufus:

                              Technically, it's his creation anyway because are we not all a part of God's creation?
                              Then, technically, aren't all religions part of God's creation? An dthen, techically, aren't those Jews, Christians, and Muslims who declare their religion the One True Religion actually blasphemers?
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by obiwan18
                                UR:
                                Assume the divinity is not of a Judeo-Christianity leaning.

                                How would that knowledge affect your life, esp. when you are a Christian?


                                Without further clarification, I would conclude that these were demons.
                                At least your position as a believer makes things much more simple than for an atheist
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