Road map: stupidest peace plan ever

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Arrian
By the way, I heard an excerpt of a recent Sharon speech and he actually used "occupation" - at least as it was translated by NPR... now I see headlines about him retracting that.

He almost managed to look moderate because of that. The far right seems to be screaming for his blood.

-Arrian

Yea, that was an interesting turn of events. Does it mean we're gonna try the Gandhi/MLK angle now?

I still need to get some sleep, but i haven't posted an opinion so I"m ok.

[Sirotnikov]

Ned, Azazel - you know what the saddest part is?

We nearly made it to Ned's second option (having Jordan take back the territories with the pals) in 1988 (or was it 89?) when Peres was in charge.

But you know what happenned? The Likkud BLEW THE WHISTLE ON IT!! They called it treason and said they were giving up holy lands.

We could have ended the conflict there and save dozens of civilians lives!!

[Eli]

Siro :

And after a month a violent revolution would've overthrown King Hussein and then, oh joy, we would've had a real war, not just an intifada.

[Az]

Real War. would have been much shorter, and WAY less bloody.

Siro is absolutely correct on this one.

[Eli]

But then we would've occupied Judea&Samaria again, so what's the point?

[Az]

We could've always assisted Jordan.

[Panag]

Originally posted by CerberusIV
At the risk of pointing out the obvious, if the road map is an externally imposed plan and neither Israel or the Palestinians like it then go and agree something between yourselves.

hi ,

thats what we are now going to do , .....

us and the pa with the usa in jordan next week , ....

no eu or russia , ....

and if the way things keep going the way they are right now we shall either say to hell with this peace of paper or accept it with huge changes in the terrain , ....

now we are getting somewhere , we , the people concerned shall sit on a table and talk

have a nice day

[The diplomat]

How can we believe Abbas when he promises to fight terrorism, when he only wants to talk to Hamas et al. and refuses to use force against them? Does anyone think that talking will convince Hamas to end their attacks against Israel?

In his first news conference since taking office, Abbas said he would keep trying to engage militant groups in dialogue, and would not resort to force to bring them to halt their attacks on Israelis."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1055125434456

[gsmoove23]

Abbas doesn't have anywhere near the political capital he needs yet to be tough on terrorism. He was just brought in out of the wilderness, few Palestinians support him. Plus, the PA's security forces are a mess. Already the false outrage wears away at the peace plan.

[The diplomat]

I just found an article about how the UN is against Israel building the security wall to protect itself from suicide bombers.

"A senior UN official on Friday urged Israel to halt construction of the wall it is building to keep suicide bombers from entering the country because of its potentially devastating impact on the Palestinian people and the peace process. "

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull%26cid=1055574197696

[Panag]

Originally posted by The diplomat
I just found an article about how the UN is against Israel building the security wall to protect itself from suicide bombers.

"A senior UN official on Friday urged Israel to halt construction of the wall it is building to keep suicide bombers from entering the country because of its potentially devastating impact on the Palestinian people and the peace process. "

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1055574197696

hi ,

they cant even control a piece of no-mans land between us and syria with fences , .... the day they can do that they can talk about what we can do , .....

we asked unicef 2 years ago for support in the special childrens hospital , we are still waiting for a serious responce , .....

UN = U know Nothing

UN = U do Nothing

have a nice day