The darkness of superstitions recedes a bit more

[Lorizael]

Generally ghosts go a huntin' when they've died a bad death or were betrayed or something like that. I don't think too many people died well on Civil War battlefields.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Lord Merciless
It's scientifically proven that human cells emit large amount of energy (in forms of EM waves) before the body finally shuts down. Could ghosts come from people whose cells emitted extra-ordinary amount of energy?

Also, science is still in its infancy. Of the 4 fundamental forces, only electro-magnetic force is well understood and characterized. We still know very little about the strong nuclear force, the weak nuclear force, and the gravitational force.

actually we know a lot about all of these

there are still some questions to be answered (like quantum gravity)

but the standard behavior is decently understood

Jon Miller

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


actually we know a lot about all of these

there are still some questions to be answered (like quantum gravity)

but the standard behavior is decently understood

Jon Miller

Depends what you mean by " a lot".

[Az]

IIRC, strong nuclear force is what holds atomic nucleii together, while weak nuclear force is what holds protons and neutrons together (or the other way around, I'm not entirely sure).

From what you've said, one could think that the weak and the strong atomic forces are the same.

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by Azazel

IIRC, strong nuclear force is what holds atomic nucleii together, while weak nuclear force is what holds protons and neutrons together (or the other way around, I'm not entirely sure).

From what you've said, one could think that the weak and the strong atomic forces are the same.

The weak nuclear force is responsible for holding Neutrons together. Neutrons are unstable outside an atomic nucleus, and will decay into an electron, a proton, and a neutrino within 10 minutes.

However, neutrons are entirely stable inside a atomic nucleus. Scientists are unable to explain why that's the case.

[The Andy-Man]

if you died, and became a ghost, and had the whole universe at your finger tips, would you really spend eternity in a wine basement


I suggest looking for dirty old ghoulies in the womens shower room.

[Urban Ranger]

Most ghosts are supposedly chained to the spot where they died as persons.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by MRT144
UR, how do we know they are ghosts and souls though if they do exsist. one is assuming thats what they are if they see them. if you document them then its definitive proof they are glowing spheres of light, nothing more.

Not 100%, but if these glowing spheres have been established to be linked with ghosts, showing the existence of these spheres would be constitute some pretty strong evidence for ghosts.

[Cruddy]

Re: The darkness of superstitions recedes a bit more

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Ghosts 'all in the mind'



This interesting study confirms the skpetic's contention, that ghosts are nothing but just tricks played by one's mind.

"...thrown up some interesting data to suggest why..."

One lab experiment and you are sold Urban. Hardly proof, is it?

[The Templar]

As much as I can't stand religious nonsense, I remain somewhat agnostic on the question of ghosts. Granted, the notion has a certain psychological appeal given that if ghosts exist it means one CAN survive death - thus there is a certain wish fulfillment that seems to be involved.

Nonetheless, there might be something to the ghost thing. Some sort of residual magnetic effects after death? Who the hell knows.

The point is, its hard to prove the non-existence of something. Doesn't mean that I have a positive belief though.

[Ben Kenobi]

TED:

"Be still, and know that I am God;
I will be exalted among the nations,
I will be exalted in the earth."

I'm not sure the relevance to the subject.

The point is, its hard to prove the non-existence of something.

It's actually impossible.
You can only definitively prove the existence, or the lack of evidence for the existence.

[Angelo Scotto]

Originally posted by The Templar
As much as I can't stand religious nonsense, I remain somewhat agnostic on the question of ghosts.

For me it's the exact opposite...
Anyway if ghosts exist we should be able to find them using a PKE meter... (I love that film )

Originally posted by Lord Merciless
Of the 4 fundamental forces, only electro-magnetic force is well understood and characterized. We still know very little about the strong nuclear force, the weak nuclear force, and the gravitational force.

If i remember well my studies the weak nuclear force and the electro-magnetic one are the same.
so, either we don't know a lot even about electromagnetic one or we know both very well

Originally posted by General Crassus
IIRC, strong nuclear force is what holds atomic nucleii together, while weak nuclear force is what holds protons and neutrons together (or the other way around, I'm not entirely sure).

strong nuclear force is what holds atomic nucleii together, so it makes nucleii "stable", the weak is different: it makes nucleii "unstable" allowing a lot of interesting nuclear reactions such as fusion:

no weak force -> no fusion,
no fusion -> no sun,
no sun -> no life,
no life -> no civ (Woow that's scary... )

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by Angelo Scotto

If i remember well my studies the weak nuclear force and the electro-magnetic one are the same.
so, either we don't know a lot even about electromagnetic one or we know both very well

If you mean the Electro-Weak-Interaction.... Can you explain why the weak nuclear force and em force are considered the same?

[Berzerker]

It's scientifically proven that human cells emit large amount of energy (in forms of EM waves) before the body finally shuts down. Could ghosts come from people whose cells emitted extra-ordinary amount of energy?

Didn't Einstein conclude there was an after life/soul based on energy transformations or something?

Most ghosts are supposedly chained to the spot where they died as persons.

Did you find that in "The Handbook For the Recently Deceased"?

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by Berzerker


Didn't Einstein conclude there was an after life/soul based on energy transformations or something?

If the energy is too weak, external energy sources, such as visible light, can easily destroy its cohesion. I think that's why we don't see many ghosts wandering around.

It seems that the best way to destroy undead beings such as ghosts, spectres, and etc is to use high-intensity, high-frequency electro-magnetic waves.