Why don't pro-life groups do this?

[Sava]

There are a lot of things pro-life groups could do to help decrease the number of abortions and increasing the quality of life for the millions of children that wallow in adoption and foster care. Unfortunately, there are few groups that really care about people. Don't get me wrong, there are very good pro-life groups out there. In my experience, it seems like more are concerned with preaching morality rather than helping people. Ironically, pro-life and pro-choice people have some of the same goals... less abortions. I've beaten this dead horse too much though. Some think the best way to get rid of abortions is to criminalize it... others know that education, contraception, support are better ways.

[MRT144]

Originally posted by Felch
My parish is involved in the Gabriel Project. Catholics are generally a lot less asinine than you seem to think MRT. A lot of the work is aiding non-Catholics, such as Mother Theresa's work in Calcutta.

youre right, catholic charities are good, but then again they are asinine when it comes to birth control, women in the church, etc etc.

[Sava]

The Orthodox church is just as stubborn with the women issue. Even though I tend to dislike Protestant Chrisitianity more than Catholicism and Orthodoxy, I have to hand it to some of them. There are many denominations that have women pastors/preachers/etc.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Sava
The Orthodox church is just as stubborn with the women issue. Even though I tend to dislike Protestant Chrisitianity more than Catholicism and Orthodoxy, I have to hand it to some of them. There are many denominations that have women pastors/preachers/etc.

Thanks for the generalization Sava. You do realise that while the words "Catholic" and "Orthodox" refer to specific denominations, the term "Protestant" refers to a general category consisting of hundreds of unique denominations, each with its own unique doctrine? You might as well have said "Even though I dislike Other Christians more than Catholicism and Orthodoxy...."

[Lincoln]

There are many pro-life organizations throughout the nation that constantly give practical help to mothers and their children. The adoption mess is largely the fault of the system which prevents worthy familys from adopting until they jump through endless hoops. That is one reason why there are an increasing number of foreign adoptions. There is certainly no shortage of caring people who wish to adopt and care for unwanted children and their mothers.

[Sava]

Thanks for the generalization Sava.

No problemo

You do realise that while the words "Catholic" and "Orthodox" refer to specific denominations, the term "Protestant" refers to a general category consisting of hundreds of unique denominations, each with its own unique doctrine? You might as well have said "Even though I dislike Other Christians more than Catholicism and Orthodoxy...."

Yes... your point? I specified that there are many denominations of protestantism... BTW protestantism = anything not Catholicism/Orthodoxy... or at least that's what I've been taught...

nice post tho Doc... you're catching up to me in terms of irrelevance

[Gibsie]

Originally posted by DetroitDave A sane, pragmatic approach to birth control/contraception wouldn't hurt either.

Contraception goes directly against the Catholic Church, whilst "loving thy neighbour" is not, so we should at least be realistic in our expectations of Christians.

[MikeH]

But you aren't allowed to covet his ox so bestiality is out.

[gunkulator]

... also can't covet your neighbor's ass - so none of THAT either.

[Japher]

Does the Pope condone the use of birth control?

Anywho, after looking at Italy, and the fact that they are mostly Catholic (as far as I know) faith is not the problem; Its poor life style choices.

to Alber Speer for addressing a solution and not the problem. I hate it when people just whine about the problem instead of hyping the solution. IMO people focus more on the problem, thus that someone with the problem is not aware of the solution... Make sense?

also can't covet your neighbor's ass - so none of THAT either.

I have a better ass than my neighbors

[OzzyKP]

"I have a better ass than my neighbors"

better watch out or your neighbors will covet yours.

[Ben Kenobi]

I mean if someone's too poor to have a child, such a system would take away the economic arguement of abortion... and i'm sure considering how determined some pro-life groups are, they'd be willing to put up money towards saving children.

Albert:

It's been well-documented in the thread, prolifers response to mothers with financial problems.

However, you are unduly worried about this economic argument. The argument is that we should kill people because they are too expensive. Just bring up the elderly, they are expensive to care for, should we kill them?

That's all you need to remember next time someone argues that we need abortion for mothers who can't afford children.

[Al B. Sure!]

Obiwan:

Poll show though that the majority of americans are in favour of gov't funding for abortion clinics... ironically, the vast majority of americans are against abortion on demand. It seems that upwards of 60% of Americans are willing to allow poor people to get abortions (and have the gov't pay for it) but are against rich people getting them.

so the economic arguement is the only one that stands in the eyes of the American people... surprisingly, abortion on demand exists though the majority are against it.

[Shi Huangdi]

"Does the Pope condone the use of birth control?

Anywho, after looking at Italy, and the fact that they are mostly Catholic (as far as I know) faith is not the problem; Its poor life style choices."

No, the pope repeatedly condemned birth control and has repeatdly declared it a sin. The catehcism declares it intrinsically evil, and it seems many on the Catholic Right view it as a grave sin.

The reason you don't see every catholic family with huge families of 7-10 kids and the like is most Catholics disagree with their Church's teaching on birth control. In some areas with less educated populaces, however, such as rural Latin America, the Church's stand on birth control has meant disaster.

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Sava
No problemo

Yes... your point? I specified that there are many denominations of protestantism... BTW protestantism = anything not Catholicism/Orthodoxy... or at least that's what I've been taught...

At least here in Germany the Term "Protestant" or "Evangelisch" refers to one of the three large Religions in the country aside from Catholics and Muslims.
It is the Religion which was created after Martin Luther rebelled against the catholic church and the christian religion as a result split in two parts (Catholics and Protestants).
(It´s the same two religions which were involved in the 30 years war).
The Church we know as Protestants has much less rules than the Catholizism, has no Head, like the pope, and does allow women to be clerics, and it has almost the same number of members here in Germany as the Catholizism.

Other christian communities such as Jehovas witnesses and those small communities you have in the USA are commonly referred to as either Sects or Free Christian Churches (or Communities).

So it seems, the meaning of the Word "Protestant" differ between Europe and America (as in other european countries I know of "Protestants" is used in the same manner as in Germany)