France issues 'please explain' to US

[DinoDoc]

Just to pick up on an interesting threadjack I was attempting awhile back.

Originally posted by DAVOUT
Exemples, please.

US vs Great Britian: Rounds 1 & 2

USA vs CSA

World War I: France, Belgium, Great Britain, the USA, et. al. vs. Germany

The Occupation of the Ruhr

Finland during World War II

[GePap]

You are right, anti-war people do become irrational when they get into an anti-Bush froth. good to see you agree most of the stuff posted here was pathetic, really.

it nice to see you can see the correctness of this position NYE

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by GePap

Well, we were\are under attack. Bush is responsible for preventing further attack. He gets to pick the plan and he will be responsible if it fails. That's just the way it works. So I don't know who is or isn't being rational. I just know that the system is working the way we planned it to.

There are just so many things to say about this comment, so many!

Lets begin: Iraq has 0 to do with 9/11, (attacking Iraq does nothing to weaken Al qaeda, the ones that carried out 9/11, as this week shows), except ina a round about way: the American people would support the pres. attacking anywhere if they thought it would somehow make them safe post 9/11: 9/11 gave the admin. the excuse they needed to carry out policies they had pre-planned but could not have pushed politically otherwise.

2. "The system is working out like he planned it to"? Yeah, those folks in Bali, Moroco, Riyahd, tunis and so forth, well, they were part of the plan! Ohh, and I guess Bushed knew Osama and a large sectyion of the ladership would get away, or ..so forth and so on.

Iraq was, well, about Iraq, not 9/11. People who think Iraq is about 9/11 are overlooking some very BIG things along the way, and if they think attakcing Iraq will make us safer from Al qaeda, well, that is just another huge misconception.

Well, I only have one thing to say in response. Maybe you don't see the connection, but the Bush administration has explained why they think there is a connection, and I think their plan is clear. So you can disagree, but you don't get to decide. Furthermore, for now the American people support the president.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by GePap
OK, time for a mod to ban this moron above , hopefully permanently, and if it is a DL, to get the genius (can such a person be called that?) behind it and ban them for some time.

You have to report it to the mod. Otherwise, they may not find out about it.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by GePap
Pro-war people become irrational when they get themselves worked up on an anti-french froth, just like anyone is irrational if they work themselves up on some 'rage' againt something.

So yes, the irrationality in this thread is quite real, and more pathetic than funny, really.

Gepap,

The thread is about the French who are upset because of the bad press that they are getting in the US. Quit threadjacking please.

[GePap]

The Bush's administrations "explination" are very poor, and all the other info out there about this admin. is more than enough to see a different route by which we got to invade Iraq.

So what if the American people support him? No one said they didn;t, but the American people are very willing to believe those in power right now.

And i did report that "GUY" to the mods.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Gepap,

The thread is about the French who are upset because of the bad press that they are getting in the US. Quit threadjacking please.

I am threadjacking! what page is this? 15?

That is just funny!

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Quit threadjacking please.

Or at least help with my jack regrading the theory of the democratic peace.

[GePap]

What, that you think it is a silly idea? Or do you back the notion?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by GePap
The Bush's administrations "explination" are very poor, and all the other info out there about this admin. is more than enough to see a different route by which we got to invade Iraq.

So what if the American people support him? No one said they didn;t, but the American people are very willing to believe those in power right now.

And i did report that "GUY" to the mods.

I forgot how this is connected so I'll just leave it.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by GePap
What, that you think it is a silly idea? Or do you back the notion?

I'm in the "It's a silly idea" camp at the moment.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by GePap
You are right, anti-war people do become irrational when they get into an anti-Bush froth. good to see you agree most of the stuff posted here was pathetic, really.

it nice to see you can see the correctness of this position NYE

Sure. There's a lot of dander up and high emotions, on both sides.

But a couple of things are still true, no matter how much it is argued. The Yanks are being very aggressive in their prosecution of their aims to change conditions in the ME so that a repeat of 9/11 is less likely. And the French have set themselves up in opposition to that.

A lot of people don't question that the French should make a fuss over the intentions of the Yanks. I question them making a fuss over the displeasure many Yanks feel regarding the position of the French.

[Bereta_Eder]

France

Too bad it has to pretend to care about overemotional children

[GePap]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I'm in the "It's a silly idea" camp at the moment.

Well then, go with Ethiopia-Eritrea 1998. I believe both were classified as democracies then. but, hey it's africa, so who cares, right?

NYE:

There is a difference between what we get from people on these bords about the french, and another thing when you have the Us cut back its participation in the Paris airshow, the Congress renaiming foods, the Prez. planning to stay in switzerland and not France during the G8 summit in france, so forth and so on. That goes beyond "the people" and into the realm of "those in power", and the French do have every right to complain that those in power in the US right now are using and stoking anti-french sentiment.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by GePap
NYE:

There is a difference between what we get from people on these bords about the french, and another thing when you have the Us cut back its participation in the Paris airshow, the Congress renaiming foods, the Prez. planning to stay in switzerland and not France during the G8 summit in france, so forth and so on. That goes beyond "the people" and into the realm of "those in power", and the French do have every right to complain that those in power in the US right now are using and stoking anti-french sentiment.

So, the French government should feel no reprecussions when they actively oppose American foreign policy?

Yes, the fries thing was the Yanks pandering to the Enquirer crowd. But what do you expect the adminstration to do with their new opponent? Proceed as if it is business as usual? I think it's pretty naive to believe that a state can come out swinging on an important issue to another state, and have that state just say 'OK'.