France issues 'please explain' to US

[HershOstropoler]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
Educate me, HO.

You only have to do some reading on the Parlements, especially the disputes about their power to reject the registration of royal laws.

As for the estates, shouldn't be that hard, as the national assembly arose from the estates of the realm. But besides that there were provincial estates.

As for the legal system of the time, there's an excellent book investigating court cases in Burgundy 1600/1780, especially insofar as they include the invocation of fundamental rights. It's called "Archäologie der Grund- und Menschenrechte" IIRC; I can give you the full quote when I'm in the office on Monday.

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
elijah: Long dissertation posts tend to get ignored as a general rule. .

Particularlar with a glaring stupid error in the 2nd sentence.

[Whaleboy]

Sorry... SOC typing leads to many errors. I assume u mean a type or grammar?

[Whaleboy]

*typo

I dont see why long posts are ignored. If so, we would not have a limit of 20'000 characters. If I need to make some points, and a long post is the best way to do that, then I will. If people cant be bothered to read or analyse it, then fine, but you may be behind in my argument.

Anyone got an answer to my hypothetical yet?

[Lefty Scaevola]

Nope, grammer and spelling do not count in such posting, wich go more under conversation rules than written language rules.. I meant putting the French Republic before the USA republic in time.

On An earlier challege of yours, repeated by Mad Monk above, I have been to France, as well as most of western Europe, and back in freindlier days in the early 70s, and the one nation there that I did not enjoy was France. But that was largely a matter of the northern French urban society, I understand the country side and south is much mor amenable.

[Whaleboy]

Sorry... momentary lapse Plenty of other examples... venice, or even post magna-carta England (not an example, but a showing of the evolution).

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by HershOstropoler


You only have to do some reading on the Parlements, especially the disputes about their power to reject the registration of royal laws.

As for the estates, shouldn't be that hard, as the national assembly arose from the estates of the realm. But besides that there were provincial estates.

As for the legal system of the time, there's an excellent book investigating court cases in Burgundy 1600/1780, especially insofar as they include the invocation of fundamental rights. It's called "Archäologie der Grund- und Menschenrechte" IIRC; I can give you the full quote when I'm in the office on Monday.

Sounds interesting -- Monday, then.

I had thought that the Parlements were by-and-large powerless against Louis XVI and later. When did this change, if it was in fact the case?

[Menlas]

Originally posted by Ned
You know what we need here on Apolyton, a member from the French right. I think most of the French posters here are from the French left. Not so? The problem we have with France today is coming from Chirac, a Gaullist.

Yes, but Chirac only did what most of the people wanted. I doubt the fact he's a Gaullist really played a role: he was mainly opportunist here (as he has so often been in his career btw).

I am myself rather from the left, but I approve some of the right's decisions.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by elijah
Sorry... momentary lapse Plenty of other examples... venice, or even post magna-carta England (not an example, but a showing of the evolution).

Gee, now where have I read that?

[Whaleboy]

Whoever said venice I'm sure will forgive me!

"The problem we have with France today is coming from Chirac, a Gaullist"

The problem we have with America today is coming from Bush; a ****.

Critic the politicians or the people, you critic the nations. That is what counts here. The nations. Perhaps we should lay off people, otherwise we will revert to stereotypes that do no-one any good. I am as guilty of that here as anyone, but lets talk about the Nations and their trends.

[Worthingtons]

It's all about the Nations is it? well in that case people like yourself elijah do a damn good job of embarrasing our nation in front our great American Friends.

You are correct in that a country cannot be solely judged on the decisions thier leaders make, but dont forget in France a lot of people are supporting Chirac's decisions - which is why France is taking all of the stick here and not Germany (altho it's fair to say most Germans supported thier leader too, as the War was his main election policy).

This thread seems to have attactred every frog around, and i dread to think where it might end.

[cinch]

NYE:

Time to try another tack, but oh no, not for the French and some of the other Euros. There is never too much time for talk. We can talk and talk and talk until the next big building blows up, then maybe we'll do something, or maybe we'll talk some more...

The French, some of the Euros, and Canada, you mean. Can't forget Canada.

I think I mentioned how the French have been constant annoyances to someone or other since 1945 when they were given their country back to them after not having the balls to keep it for themselves.

The 340 000 French soldiers who sacrificed their lives for their country were cowards, then?

I can understand being ticked off by the DeGaulle "Vive Le Quebec Libre" thing, but that is a little much, don't you think?

[Worthingtons]

For those 340,000 there were probably another 680,000 who surrendered. I've said too many times how the embarrasment of this is one of the main reasons for the French being bitter.

[Menlas]

Originally posted by Rothy

This thread seems to have attactred every frog around, and i dread to think where it might end.

And, worse than that, it seems to have attracted every stupid France-hater, desperately trying to recall Napoleon's defeats, which certainly have A LOT to do with the subject of this thread.

[Menlas]

Originally posted by Rothy
For those 340,000 there were probably another 680,000 who surrendered. I've said too many times how the embarrasment of this is one of the main reasons for the French being bitter.

ROFL

What did I just say ?