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  • #211
    " Sad really. What do you have to prove to everybody? Or do you have something that you haven't provent to yourself yet?"

    I thought this was a debate on France and the US, not a psychoanalysis via internet forums!

    I am not an arrogant person who finds himself to be somehow more intelligent than anyone else, I am merely comfortable and objective with who I am, and have no problem with justifying my position with references to my character, inclination and skills.

    I trust that your ad hominem arguments are a sign that you concede the argument, or would you like to put forward some valid points?
    "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
    "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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    • #212
      I do not claim to be representative of the British people, only the people that I protest with. Our concurrents at one stage comprised over 2/3 of the population, before our national pragmatism set in
      "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
      "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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      • #213
        Yeah, at least the BSD's give some serious performance. For those that need not a mouse to use a computer.
        "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
        "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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        • #214
          Valid points are useless.

          Ad hominems are fun.
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #215
            Originally posted by Kidicious
            The French govt took active measures to undermine US diplomatic efforts. War is just an extension of diplomacy.
            What diplomatic efforts? You mean the bribing of various nations?

            Ally doesn't mean slave. This anti-French stuff is BS, especially when they've been instrumental in preventing terrorist attacks against US targets in Europe.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • #216
              Would it be a fair assesment to say that the US is governed by the morals of the profit forecast, the ethics of the market? (Needless to say, these are fallacies and contradictions in terms)?

              I must leave to threads new, I've said my piece here so one must let it be. Anyone who would like to continue this interesting debate, please PM me.
              "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
              "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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              • #217
                To some extent yes.

                To apply profit morals to Iraq? No.
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • #218
                  Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                  What diplomatic efforts? You mean the bribing of various nations?

                  Ally doesn't mean slave. This anti-French stuff is BS, especially when they've been instrumental in preventing terrorist attacks against US targets in Europe.
                  Look, I wasn't making a judgement about French diplomacy. I was just saying that it was against the US interest. Now that's fine if you have calculated that you will get bad press in the US for it, but now they are just whining because of the bad press as though they didn't expect to get it.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                  • #219
                    Originally posted by Kidicious
                    War is just an extension of diplomacy.
                    It was Carl von Clausewitz who said that in 1832 (171 years ago). I thought we had left such poor thinking behind, it definitely lead to WWI.
                    "Cogito Ergo Sum" - Rene Descartes, French Mathematician

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                    • #220
                      Originally posted by badman


                      It was Carl von Clausewitz who said that in 1832 (171 years ago). I thought we had left such poor thinking behind, it definitely lead to WWI.
                      Appearantly some don't realize the consequences of diplomacy. France took action to prevent the war that was adversarial to US diplomatic efforts. That affected the US in a negative way. Maybe you can see how war and diplomacy are connected in the real world.

                      edit: btw, don't you think it was adversarial diplomacy that led to WW1?
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • #221
                        Originally posted by notyoueither


                        I thought it was your cat.
                        It is very strange that Tass thinks of Bush as a Pus-sy.
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                        • #222
                          Originally posted by badman


                          It was Carl von Clausewitz who said that in 1832 (171 years ago). I thought we had left such poor thinking behind, it definitely lead to WWI.
                          Still better than the present Washington version: "Politik ist die Forstetzung des Krieges mit anderen Mitteln."
                          “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                          • #223
                            Nein. Das ist nicht eine gut Idee Herr Rechtsberater.
                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • #224
                              Originally posted by DanS
                              The French gov't is getting what it deserves. Actively working against the US and taking the side of a totalitarian dictatorship.
                              You are taking the side of a regime that has started an illegal war of aggression against a sovereign country, and your leaders should be hanging under the Nuremberg standard that another America had established, a long time ago.

                              The American People should be ashamed of supporting their criminal leaders, actively working against international law.
                              “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                              • #225
                                Originally posted by DanS
                                The French gov't is getting what it deserves. Actively working against the US and taking the side of a totalitarian dictatorship.
                                Alternative version:

                                You are actively supporting an authoritarian regime that sponsors terrorism against the world's largest democracy.

                                The American People should be ashamed of carrying Musharaf's water, pissing on the Indians.
                                “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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