But first, the disclaimer/notice(it worked last time, maybe it'll work again):
I AM NOT A FUNDAMENTALIST ATTACKING EVOLUTION. NOR AM I AN ATHEIST ATTACKING RELIGION. PERSONAL ATTACKS TREATING ME AS SUCH WILL GET NO RESPONSE FROM ME OTHER THAN A SPOT ON MY IGNORE LIST WITH YAVOON. THANK YOU.
AND PLEASE DON'T THREADJACK. PROSELYTIZE SOMEWHERE ELSE, I'M POSSESSIVE OF MY THREADS.
With that said, I seem to remember a response to a creationist in a previous thread that went along the lines of, "stop reading crap like Philip Johnson and look up 'transitional forms' from a reputable source."
As it so happens, I've since read Johnson's stuff(long story), and his argument seems aware of transitional forms but maintains that they do not exist, or at least haven't been found. Which is to say, no real, significant tfs that bridge the gaps between evolving types. There was a feathery dinosaur called archeopteryx and there is a primitive bird called the hoatzin, but he maintains to the effect that none of the freakish creatures that should have gone between have been found. I myself also wonder how such tfs could have reproduced unless by staggering coincidence similar aberrations appeared at the same time, seeing as cross-species breeding nowadays results in sterile offspring most of the time(tiglons, mules, etc.).
I ask mostly in the spirit of an inquiring mind here: do such forms exist, and if so, could somebody point me to a resource describing them? I've tried web searching but all I got was links to unfounded diatribes by either side of the issue. I'd like to reiterate that this is not an attack on the theory as such...
I AM NOT A FUNDAMENTALIST ATTACKING EVOLUTION. NOR AM I AN ATHEIST ATTACKING RELIGION. PERSONAL ATTACKS TREATING ME AS SUCH WILL GET NO RESPONSE FROM ME OTHER THAN A SPOT ON MY IGNORE LIST WITH YAVOON. THANK YOU.
AND PLEASE DON'T THREADJACK. PROSELYTIZE SOMEWHERE ELSE, I'M POSSESSIVE OF MY THREADS.
With that said, I seem to remember a response to a creationist in a previous thread that went along the lines of, "stop reading crap like Philip Johnson and look up 'transitional forms' from a reputable source."
As it so happens, I've since read Johnson's stuff(long story), and his argument seems aware of transitional forms but maintains that they do not exist, or at least haven't been found. Which is to say, no real, significant tfs that bridge the gaps between evolving types. There was a feathery dinosaur called archeopteryx and there is a primitive bird called the hoatzin, but he maintains to the effect that none of the freakish creatures that should have gone between have been found. I myself also wonder how such tfs could have reproduced unless by staggering coincidence similar aberrations appeared at the same time, seeing as cross-species breeding nowadays results in sterile offspring most of the time(tiglons, mules, etc.).
I ask mostly in the spirit of an inquiring mind here: do such forms exist, and if so, could somebody point me to a resource describing them? I've tried web searching but all I got was links to unfounded diatribes by either side of the issue. I'd like to reiterate that this is not an attack on the theory as such...
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