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**Lord Merciless** · May 12, 2003, 16:22

Looking back, I think Battlestar Galactica 3 was a total crap as well. They should not have found the Earth.

**Bereta_Eder** · May 12, 2003, 16:23

just rembered: show girls. that was... almost... ubelievable.

how we ended up seeing that movie is a movie all by itself too.

**Ubergeek** · May 12, 2003, 16:34

I dunno about anybody else, but for me, in order to be truly awful, and I mean truly, mind-numbingly awful, a movie has to at least have pretensions of being something good on some level. A movie has to think it's artistic or profound or intense or whatever before it can fail spectacularly enough to be truly bad.

Most of Robin Williams' movies qualify -- Patch Adams isn't so-bad-it's-good, it's so-bad-it's-a-visual-enema. The Cell, the Jennifer Lopez "effort", was putrid because it was trying to achieve a sort of artistic grandeur but foundered on the shoals of an inane script and the fact that Lopez couldn't out-act a corpse on the actingest day of her life if she had an electrified acting machine.

IMO, something like Showgirls, while bad, can't be bad because it never really tries to be good.

Of course, that's just my opinion. YMMV.

**Chemical Ollie** · May 12, 2003, 16:36

I liked Showgirls- Not only for the tits, but for the cruel b!tches.

**Bereta_Eder** · May 12, 2003, 16:37

One of the things that I found unbelievable was that they were trying to be serious about this.

**Kramerman** · May 12, 2003, 17:07

I liked star ship troopers only by virtue that i read and liked the book, whcih is almost nothing like the movie, but has the same ideas.

**JohnT** · May 12, 2003, 17:22

Disappointing movies are what get me down, especially when the movie loses it in the final 15 minutes and pulls its punches.

A good example of this was the Al Pacino and Robin Williams (there's that name again!) movie Insomnia. The movie set up a nice little moral dilemma with a couple of characters who were fairly interesting (an amazing feat in a RW film), and then craps out at the end by having both of them shoot each other to the death.

I was ashamed of myself for not seeing it coming. I am saddened by my gullibility in asking the question "How can they ever resolve this?" I cannot freakin' BELIEVE that I forgot that this was an American production, and while endings can be happy/sad/confusing/stunning/shocking they can NOT, nor EVER WILL THEY BE, morally ambiguous.

The bad guys have to lose. We had two bad guys in this movie, so they both had to die. Why the hell didn't I realize that?

:throws up hands:

**Bereta_Eder** · May 12, 2003, 17:24

A good movie IS when the ending is ambigious morally and otherwise.

That said, Isnomnia had two very good actors that weren't particularly helped by the script and I have the feeling they never really gave themsleves in that movie.

**JohnT** · May 12, 2003, 17:29

Well, a good movie is a lot of things and not just it's ending.

Insomnia wasn't a bad movie, I just expected more of it. I really shouldn't have mentioned it, but the repeated mentions of Robin Williams' name brought it to mind.

Can he be voted Worst Actor Ever?

**Bereta_Eder** · May 12, 2003, 17:31

Of course it is a lot more other things.

Insomnia was not bad was not something particular either.

Robin Williams tickles our benevolance chords so his acting is irrelevant as happens to aa lot of other actors for a lot of other tickles.

**Traianvs** · May 12, 2003, 17:32

Originally posted by Dissident
Contact was kind of interesting

sleepwalkers was abosulte crap

Also I should note Freeway 2. The first one was good with Reese Witherspoon. The second one was perhaps the most disturbing filmaking I have ever seen. Although I hear there is a new artsy movie out today with a 9 minute anal rape scene called Irreversible. I haven't seen it, but that movie may take the award for most disturbing filmaking.

Irreversible is old.. I got the DivX so....

Anyway the movie sucks donkey ballz as the only content is shocking material, swearing and actually, childish behaviour... the rape scene you mentioned... Well Monica Belucci is gorgeous, but basically it's just a piece of porn without seeing any dangerous body parts

she just gets raped and then beat up a bit, nothing special, but the movie sucks, really, don't watch it.

How about Wing Commander... A crew in a spaceship actually CARRYING missiles in order to reload etc

too funny!

Starship troopers was bad, the acting and the movie itself... As someone else already mentioned, even we could mangle those weak aliens... instead of using WW1 methods

Also I want to kick DEnise Richards in the face... I don't like it, and on top of that she acts like a *****
espcially that horrible smile, makes me go berserk...

**Dinner** · May 12, 2003, 17:38

Starship Troopers was bad but on the up side there were alot of hotties in that movie. Coed Showers anyone?

**Traianvs** · May 12, 2003, 17:43

what does coed mean....I've seen this here and there (usually on warez sites containing pr0nlinks

) but I have no idea what it is..

**DanS** · May 12, 2003, 17:47

Coed = coeducational.

Used to described mixed boy/girl schools. "Extended" to mean most any activity that is mixed sex. Coed naked lacross, etc.

**Lorizael** · May 12, 2003, 17:54

Never seen, (because of its reputation) but heard, that Cabin Boy is a truly atrocious movie. And this comes from a guy who absolutely loves bad movies.

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