I've been indicted on multiple charges!

[chequita guevara]

In the US, we put 25 year-old women having sex with minors in jail.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
In the US, we put 25 year-old women having sex with minors in jail.

OK Che.

Lets say I'm a normal healthy sixteen year old who gets an offer from an attractive 25 year old woman, say an attractive famous actress, and has sex with her.

How in their right mind can anyone call something like this abuse? In this case it wouldn't be voluntary on my part, but hyper-voluntary.

Presumably, you have been a sixteen year old male and know that it's extremely difficult to think of anything else but attractive women at that age.

[Az]

The consequences of a girl having sex and a boy having sex are indeed totally different in our society.

But generally, I have my feelings mixed about what korn did. . the 4 years rule seems great, and what you did is against the law.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Azazel
The consequences of a girl having sex and a boy having sex are indeed totally different in our society.

Here's an experiment that should be conducted.

Place a plain looking woman by the side of the road with a sign around her neck saying "Will have sex with any man."

In another location place a plain looking man by the side of the road with a sign saying "Will have sex with any woman".

I'm betting the woman will be picked up within about, say, three or four seconds.

The bloke will be there until the cows come home.

[Arrian]

And your point is?

-Arrian

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Arrian
And your point is?

The rules for men and women shouldn't be the same when there is such an obvious difference.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well, if we are discussing the US (where korn is from)... it'd be unconstitutional to have one rule on this for women and one for men. The classification wouldn't be ruled to be substantially tied to the important governmental interest of preventing psychological harm to young women (based on prior precedent).

That, and I think the rules should be the same .

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
In the US, we put 25 year-old women having sex with minors in jail.

In the US, just about anyone who deviates from the norm is put in jail.

That's why I don't understand why you call it the land of free.

I've got more freedom in my little finger down here in Australia.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Well, if we are discussing the US (where korn is from)... it'd be unconstitutional to have one rule on this for women and one for men. The classification wouldn't be ruled to be substantially tied to the important governmental interest of preventing psychological harm to young women (based on prior precedent).

That, and I think the rules should be the same .

That's absurd. It's like saying that a public health system should provide cervical examinations for both sexes. If there is a real difference then a sensible law should reflect that. One big difference that hasn't been mentioned is that the consequences of sexual activity for women are more pressing than those for men - it is after all women who get pregnant and suffer the concomitant health problems associated with it.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That's absurd. It's like saying that a public health system should provide cervical examinations for both sexes. If there is a real difference then a sensible law should reflect that. One big difference that hasn't been mentioned is that the consequences of sexual activity for women are more pressing than those for men - it is after all women who get pregnant and suffer the concomitant health problems associated with it.

But there ISN'T a real difference. Both genders can easily suffer psychological problems from being with a person who is sufficiently older, no matter the gender. Even guys don't like being used.

Can you tell me where the real difference is? Just because men seem to be more piggish about sex than women, historically, isn't good enough.

[Giancarlo]

Tell Menem that.. he is 72.. and he has a wife who is in the mid 30s. Now is there something wrong with that picture?

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

But there ISN'T a real difference. Both genders can easily suffer psychological problems from being with a person who is sufficiently older, no matter the gender. Even guys don't like being used.

Can you tell me where the real difference is? Just because men seem to be more piggish about sex than women, historically, isn't good enough.

Of course there is a real difference. The rate of sexual exploitation of minors by men is far greater than the sexual exploitation of minors by women. In many of the latter cases it is the male who initiates the activity. It is also the case that most 14-16 year old males would relaish the opportunity to copulate with an attractive older woman (or with one their own age for that matter). As I said above, if an attractive woman in her mid twenties had wanted to use me for meaningless sex when I was 16 I would have thought I'd died and gone to heaven. While it's true that both genders can suffer from being with older people, females tend to suffer more. Presumably there is some psychological basis for this.

Tell me, in your city is there a problem with 40ish women cruising the streets in cars looking for 14 year old girls to abuse?

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Fez
Tell Menem that.. he is 72.. and he has a wife who is in the mid 30s. Now is there something wrong with that picture?

I think it's disgraceful, but that doesn't mean it should be illegal.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Agathon


I think it's disgraceful, but that doesn't mean it should be illegal.

Even in the US it isn't illegal. But we all know it isn't for love.. this model just married Menem for the power and money. I know her.. she tried dating Alberto Fujimori before.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Sorry for the parsing... but I'm a little pressed for time .

The rate of sexual exploitation of minors by men is far greater than the sexual exploitation of minors by women.

Just because the rate is greater for the former doesn't mean the latter does not exist.

It is also the case that most 14-16 year old males would relaish the opportunity to copulate with an attractive older woman

You don't think the 14-16 year old females relish having a relationship with an attractive older man? Or do you think they are forced into it.

While it's true that both genders can suffer from being with older people, females tend to suffer more.

Again... you admit that younger males can also suffer harm from relationships to older females. Just because it is less common than the other way around does not mean we should just ignore it.

Tell me, in your city is there a problem with 40ish women cruising the streets in cars looking for 14 year old girls to abuse?

No... but then again there isn't a problem in my town with 40ish men cruising the streets looking for 14 year old girls either.