Press has been lying about Iraq

[Ned]

I just saw this on Scarborough report on MSNBC: Jonathan Forman (I believe this is his name) an embedded reporter from the NY Post, has broken the news that the press has giving a totally distorted view of what is going on in Baghdad. There is no mass looting -- it always was directed. The reports on the looting of the Museum were lies from the very beginning. The people are genuinely happy to have the Americans present and Saddam gone.

Asked why he broke the story, he said that he had the discrepancy between what was being reported and what was happening was too great for him to keep silent about it.

In his story, he cites names and reports and shows how the reporters lied to slant the stories to be anti-American.

He says that virutally all the biased reporting is coming from reporters who were in Baghdad during the war, and not from embedded reporters. The AP and USA Today are the most biased, he reported.

I looked for a link, but could not find anything on the NY Post's site.

[Dinner]

Hmm, it would be hard to see why they would intentionally lie since people could later check their reports. Still it is hard to reconcile the hysterical screaming of certain reporters and Eurotwat politicians ("The Americans allowed our heritage to be stolen") with the fact that only 34 items went missing.

Could it be that certain people were biased and played up the little looting that did occur in the museum? Nah, journalist would never resort to yellow press just to sell papers.

[GePap]

Yes Ned, every single American and British, heck, every single reporter other than this guy has been lying

There is no mass looting -- it always was directed. The reports on the looting of the Museum were lies from the very beginning. The people are genuinely happy to have the Americans present and Saddam gone.

DanS already had a thread about claims that few items were taken, and the second sentence has nothign to do with the looting (cause they were looting iraqi places, not US equipment or material.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Yes, they all want to be Americans, just like everybody. Anyone who says different is a liar or a foreign agent.

The museum thing is fairly reasonable to explain. As US authorities admit, the museum offices were absolutely trashed, and crap was all over the place, everything of use not nailed down was gone. A lot of other pieces were missing from the museum displays, but stored elsewhere and not found and inventoried until after the initial reports. A third category of stuff was relatively minor items in the museum basement, not systematically inventoried by the museum staff, so there's nothing to check against, and nobody has any idea what, if any, of that is gone.

[Dinner]

The staff said most of the important items were removed before the war for safe keeping.

[Gatekeeper]

Crap. The Fourth Estate's agenda for world domination has been exposed. I must inform my corporate overlords of this breach in security.

Gatekeeper

[GePap]

Originally posted by Oerdin
The staff said most of the important items were removed before the war for safe keeping.

So then only the staff deserves praise for priceless artifacts not being lost, since certainly the US did sh1t, and if they hadn't sent these things away they would have been looted.

[Dinner]

No,many second rate and third rate (but still important items) remained but were not looted. Mainly the looters wanted the office furniture and left the brazers and urns alone.

[Ned]

Of course, GePap and MtG, you have complete faith in liberal, anti-Bush media to give you the facts and nothing but the facts, with no spin.

[Gatekeeper]

Originally posted by Ned
Of course, GePap and MtG, you have complete faith in liberal, anti-Bush media to give you the facts and nothing but the facts, with no spin.

You take that back, boy! You know us folks in the media take our marching orders from our Corporate Overlords, not some Simpering Liberals (TM) in ivory towers!

Yes sir, IBM, sir! Thy bidding will be done! **runs off to write public relations story**

Gatekeeper

[GePap]

Hehe, liberal media.

No Ned, I expect nothign from the weak, craving mews outlets we have today, but I expect the least from crap rags like the NY Post. As was stated, DanS already had a post about this, based on a simple, well written artcle by a guy who did not drag his ass to be on TV (hey, looky mom) for that Hannity want to be Scarborough. and as of yet, the only looting sotry you guys seem to be able to "disprove" is the Museum sotry. What about the reported lootings of all major ministries? The Burning of the library and the destruction of works that surived the Mongol invasion? Wht about the reports that the offices and oil fields and equipmet in northern Iraq had been looted to sucha degree that the Kirkut oil fields might not run for a few more weeks? Do you have "proof" that all those were lies?

YOu find one guy wth an 'old' report (old since DanS already had a thread about it days ago) dealing only with one topic, yet you write:

I just saw this on Scarborough report on MSNBC: Jonathan Forman (I believe this is his name) an embedded reporter from the NY Post, has broken the news that the press has giving a totally distorted view of what is going on in Baghdad. There is no mass looting -- it always was directed.

and take the Museum incident as "just an exmaple", plus of course you take the word of only one man, and yet you say MtG and I are the ones being fooled....

As for the anit-Bush press, the real anti-Bush press that exists (mainly sites and web-sites), well, they have far more to report than just what happened at the museum.

[Ned]

As I said, he sites names, and reports. I wish I had a link. But as you say, anyone who raises any doubts about the accuracy and spin of the liberal press is a certified member of the vast right-wing conspiracy that, among other things, fabricated that infamous story about a White House intern, her kneepads and his cigar.

[Harovan]

The NY Post. What a respectable paper . You should read The Sun. It's even better.

[Dis]

I haven't heard this, and I listen to all the right-winger radio talk shows like Hannity and O'Reilly . You would figure they woudl jump on this story. So it must be false.

[LoneWolf]

Oddly, people like Gepap are quite ready to believe in "right-wing, pro -American" conspiracies. Hmm...