Straybow -
I read through your post and noticed "all counts" were yours, not mine. You didn't address what I said, you addressed what you said.
Excuse me, but did I say that no coordination tests have been done with pot? Wrong on your first count. I said they don't show us the results of tests with motorists on closed tracks like they do with alcohol. Btw, it isn't harmful to have your coordination diminished, that depends on what else you're doing at the time and a harmful outcome.
Strange, a pilots association or the FAA? And wouldn't the outcome of a test be moot anyway since pilots could not legally smoke in their off hours and such illegal behavior would be grounds for dismissal? Also, I doubt it was a pilot's association since they wouldn't likely conduct a test to allow for the firing of pilots, their own members. That's like a teacher's union giving tests to justify firing teachers. Having played baseball and other sports under the influence of pot and "clean" is all the proof I need to know whatever "quantifiable" loss of coordination is miniscule wrt to myself.
Since you can't even remember the "proper", i.e., accurate, name of the association, maybe you shouldn't be talking. But I like how you created a strawman and used it for a "joke", albeit a very tired one. I don't smoke pot and haven't for more than a decade. And in all the debates I've been in on this issue, I never saw a reference to this test inspite of your difficulties, so don't make convenient assumptions about what arguments I have or have not read.
Oh goody, another "joke". If you had read my post, oh wise one, you would have seen I mentioned the fact that the illegality of pot does not prevent government sanctioned tests with people. I did not limit my statement to or mention local police and media so consider that another strawman exposed. Btw, pot has been legalised from time to time in certain localities and the only obvious reason the feds would not want others conducting and publicising such a test is because they wouldn't be able to show some guy on pot weaving around knocking down the cones like with booze. Oh, one more point, you just claimed some "pilot's" association did a test, how did they get around the illegality of pot if local (or state) police can't?
Hey, remember when the Partnership for a Drug Free America (now there's an organisation prone to fantasy, you should send in your resume) put out an ad purporting to show the brain wave activity of someone on pot compared to a "normal" person? The pot smoker was flatlining! They later admitted the ad was a lie, the machine hadn't been connected to a pot smoker. Now, maybe you should check for that test of yours and let us know what involvement the feds had in conducting it so we'll know if the alleged results are to be taken with a bit of skepticism.
Wrong on all counts.
There have been coordination tests with marijuana. Tests don't show it to be harmless.
The Airline Pilots Association (or whatever their proper name is) did one about 20 years ago, very rigorous. Quantifiable measures of loss in coordination, attention span, etc., and the duration of effects after use, convinced them that off duty use of mj should grounds for removing pilots.
That's the test that usually gets cited in these arguments, and I find it difficult to believe that you haven't heard of it many times. Or perhaps you read these kinds of things and don't remember? A little too much weed, hmmm?
Thirdly, a local police department and news might stage a cone course test on alcohol effects. But clearly no such public demonstration can be made with pot because it is illegal. If you think otherwise, again I'd say your intake might be effecting your reasoning processes.
On second thought, a few years ago the police department here did a breathalizer demonstration. One of the volunteers disappeared into the bathroom and allegedly smoked a little weed, just to show that pot doesn't affect the diffusion of alcohol from the blood into the lungs. Not quite the same…
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