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  • #91
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    I'm sorry, you've called che a criminal and a pig in the space of two posts.


    Well, he's called Bush worse. Giving him some of his medicine.

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    Oh, and if true, I agree with the Bush proposals. Plato and rah show why the arcaic rules regarded overtime need to be junked, especially for federal employees.
    First, Che didn't make an ad hominem insult against someone here, so it's a bit of a difference, isn't it?

    Second, having worked for the Federal government, I can attest that overtime rules aren't so cushy. By working overtime, I got comp hours, not pay. Only by working on extremely long projects (being there over 12 hours) could I get pay, and it was very rare that I was able to do that, and managers were extremely stingy about allowing it, even for projects that were in urgent need of it.

    But let's just stereotype Federal employees as lazy people who abuse the system, yes...
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Boris Godunov
      Fez practices the vaunted "I'm Rubber, You're Glue" tactic.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by SlowwHand


        That must be that squirrel just before it chased that 10 year old kid up a tree.

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        • #94
          If you aren't going to post on topic...

          DON'T POST...
          Keep on Civin'
          RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • #95
            You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal...
            Just had to laugh at that , and Criminal is hardly the worst insult to have thrown at you anyway.
            Up The Millers

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Ming
              If you aren't going to post on topic...

              DON'T POST...
              Isnt this the 'Off-Topic' forum
              Up The Millers

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Fez


                I'd prefer to live under Franco than live around pigs who think they know what is better, and trying to force so called revolution on others. I prefer to live under a capitalist state, not a communist or socialist one.
                Can you explain what do you mean with "pigs who think they know what is better, and trying to force so called revolution on others"? please

                I thought you would prefer to live under Franco, and well all we know he was an "hijo de su p* madre" but to call him "pig" it's no very nice...poor pigs
                Porque nada pueden bombas donde sobra corazón...

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                • #98
                  We don't have OT here in Florida, so all I have are the Federal rules. I'm probably owed about $500 for my last job, and one place I worked owed me about two weeks worth of comp time that I never got (although I did get two weeks severene when they laid me off).
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • #99
                    I've read articles in the past regarding Bush's proposal, but none within the last month or so. Going on memory alone, I'm not sure if his proposals would let (as an example, nothing more) Wal-Mart work its cashiers 50 hours a week, but not pay overtime for any hours over 40. Or if they would have to settle for 10 hours of comp time. Hmm ... if I get time, I'll see what I can dig up in the archives.

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                    • Around 10 years ago California loosened up on the OT rules to allow for flex time. Before any hours over 8 in a single day was at 1.5 for nonexempt employees. Now, you get 1.5 only if you work more then 40 hours per week so an employee can work four ten hour days and get a three day weekend.

                      To bad I'm exempt.
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                      • Originally posted by Oerdin
                        Around 10 years ago California loosened up on the OT rules to allow for flex time. Before any hours over 8 in a single day was at 1.5 for nonexempt employees. Now, you get 1.5 only if you work more then 40 hours per week so an employee can work four ten hour days and get a three day weekend.

                        To bad I'm exempt.
                        Ca. laws have been far more stringent than the federal standard. In fact, they were boardering on ridiculous.

                        I agree on the exempt thing. Why are managers discriminated against by the law???
                        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                        • while the AFL-CIO might spin something, I really doubt theyd make something like this up out of whole cloth.

                          And theyre more likely to watch this closely than the mainstream media.

                          Im sure theyre be arguments for why this is beneficial (some are already here) but I suspect that net-net it will harm most of the non-exempts who get shifted. And will also make it easier for employers to defer hiring new employees.
                          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                          • On top of this, the Labor Department has changed the rules to allow faith-based Federally-funded labor re-training programs to use sacred literature in their training. Excuse me, but what the hell does the Bible have to do with learning how to operate a fork lift?
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • I agree with Lord of the Mark. The AFL-CIO has a political bias, but that does not mean they lied about whe particulars they posted about.

                              I don't see how forcing workers to work 60 hours a week makes the more productive. my guess is that (as Spiff pointed out in the France and 35hours/week topic) in fact it will lessen overall productivity, sicne workers will burn out faster, call in more sick days.
                              If you don't like reality, change it! me
                              "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
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                              • Originally posted by jolair


                                Can you explain what do you mean with "pigs who think they know what is better, and trying to force so called revolution on others"? please

                                I thought you would prefer to live under Franco, and well all we know he was an "hijo de su p* madre" but to call him "pig" it's no very nice...poor pigs
                                Is it me or does this post not make any sense what so ever?
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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