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  • #61
    None that I know of. I think all agricultural subsidies are handeled by the EU. I remember it was quite a ruckus when Schröder suggested that agricultural subsidies (along with investemnt funds) should become the responsibility of individual countries.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Sava
      Not at all. I'm the same Sava. Bush? Why would I like Bush? He's giving out record amounts of corporate welfare, pork, subsidies, and such. He even placed tariffs on foreign steel. At this point, and as an American, I want to improve things in America. I'll worry about the rest of the world after we've fixed our own problems.
      I agree, not only has the Bush Administration been one of the most aggressive social fascists, their economic policies have been anti-free market and anti-free trade. The steel tariffs and Canadian Lumber trade barriers basically are making his administration the most statist in American history.
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      • #63
        I have a problem with their being any agricultural subsidies. However I am saying as a small side point, if the UK put the most into the EU (IIRC) why do the French get more out? How much the produce isn't the issue, but how much do they need? They produce more, partly because they are subsidised. We all need to produce less, and stop dumping. It costs both the EU and the 3rd World money, which neither can really afford.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Drogue
          That answer your question? Maybe not most of it to France, but more than any other nation.
          22 % is correct for 2001. About 10 % for the UK.

          Pretty much in line with agro sector value added (I think 23 % for France, 7-9 % for UK).

          I'd scrap CAP tomorrow if it were my decision, but that crap about the big french CAP rip-off is just rubbish. Btw, there's also not that much difference between UK and French net contributions to the EU budget.

          GP: Yes there are national subsidies too. Makes the total of ~100 billion.
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          • #65
            Hersh: That was just meant as a little side point. I want to scrap it, as a main thing. If not, I would like to reduce it a lot. Most does go to the French, compared to other nations, which is all I said. I don't think it's "big french... rip-off". I think it's a big rip-off, that is mainly supported, and helping, the French.
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            • #66
              Anyone? What is the Foreign Service Corporation and how does it subsidize exports?
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              • #67
                Special tax breaks for income from exports for US corps, attributed according to campaign contribution (which makes negotiating adjustments so cumbersome).
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by HershOstropoler
                  Special tax breaks for income from exports for US corps, attributed according to campaign contribution (which makes negotiating adjustments so cumbersome).
                  HO, thanks. I had a question in another thread that you might be able to answer. On Jan. 31, 1951, the UN SC unanimously passed a resolution that it was no longer "siezed" of the complaint concerning the agression of the North Koreans.

                  Does this mean that to the extent that the US and allied troops thereafter prosecuted the war, they no longer prosecuted it under the authority of the UN?
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by HershOstropoler
                    Special tax breaks for income from exports for US corps, attributed according to campaign contribution (which makes negotiating adjustments so cumbersome).
                    1. Sometimes your writing is hard for me to untangle. Are you saying that the amount of the tax break depends on a firm's political campaign contributions?

                    2. Ned, do a Google on Foreign Service (or Sales) Corporation tax break exports. You will get a bunch of stuff. Here is one:

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by paiktis22
                      GP, funny answer that. Restaurants are easy to close and open.

                      Pay attention military failure, the poles lost their businesses and their consumers have to pay more for crap food.
                      Paying attention is doable for a while, but no one can figure out what you mean. How the hell can prices be high, but no one can get into the market? Are there some barriers that we don't know about?
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                      • #71
                        this thread does fine

                        /me adds a bit of salt

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                        • #72
                          kidicious, ame3rican fast foods came in and closed the polish cheap restaurants. that's all i know.

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                          • #73
                            The Polish government should subsidize some loans so people can get into the action.
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                            • #74
                              GP, Thanks for the link. The document is dated Dec. 2000 and described a statutory change that keeps the FSC's and tax breaks, but extend them to only 50% US content. Because the furor continues, I see that this change was not sufficient.

                              I agree with the general sentiment that export subsidies make no sense on a variety of levels. I wonder why we would ever do such a thing except for campaign contributions.

                              This passed in 1984. Reagan was in charge then.
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                              • #75
                                The people who should complain about export subsidies are the taxpayers in the originating country. The countries getting the subsidized goods have nothing to complain about and something to be thankful for.

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