EU Gets Sanctions Go-Ahead Against U.S.

[TCO]

Originally posted by el freako




I detect a note of inconsistancy here...

If the former's only real effects are a transfer of wealth to EU consumers then surely there is nothing wrong with subsidising farmers, as the consumers are mainly in very poor third world countries?

Are you brain dead, stats-freak? The positions are totally consistent. Might want to read what they were replies to as well.

Receiving subsidized goods is good. Sending them out is bad. Capiche?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Sava
I disagree. Such subsidies perpetuate a costly-inefficient business. Instead of letting the chips fall where they may, and perhaps letting businesses fail; such subsidies are supporting an inferior system.

Not necessarily, but in some cases yes. The chips don't always fall eficiently as they may. Still, even if the subsidies create inefficiencies, its the overall economy that suffers. But if you look at who benefits, its those who buy the subsidized goods, and to a lesser extent the producers and workers in the industry.

[SlowwHand]

What are all you Billy Badasses going to do, sic Hueij on us?

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
What are all you Billy Badasses going to do, sic Hueij on us?

NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE !
Erm, did you mean, what commercial retorsion we'd do ?

[Drogue]

Originally posted by GP
I agree. Get rid of the subsidies. Let's start with the *****ing farmers. I'm sick of hearing about how salt of the earth they are. EVerybody else is salt of the earth and doesn't need a handout check.

Same goes for the EU. Let su remove the abomination that is the CAP (Common Agricultural Policy). WTF are we all subsidizing (mostly French) farmers to be inefficient and produce too much, and then dump it on the third world. It is appauling, and we need to remove it. It costs over half the EU budget (budget being about 100 Billion Euros) just to take money from the poorest countries and give it to european farmers.

Sorry about the rant, but it really infuriates me. Why should we have it? We only do because the farmers (especially French) are particularly influential politically, and it is very hard now to get it removed (must be unanimous to change something IIRC)

[Bereta_Eder]

GP, funny answer that. Restaurants are easy to close and open.

Pay attention military failure, the poles lost their businesses and their consumers have to pay more for crap food.

[Bereta_Eder]

Sloww, If those ears dont terrify you nothing will.

[SlowwHand]

Doesn't it look similar?

I don't mean exactly, of course.
More like a relative, than the actual Hueij.

[Spiffor]

I always thought of Lamy as a clone of Infogrames' CEO

All hail Bruno Bonnell !

[HershOstropoler]

Drogue:

"WTF are we all subsidizing (mostly French) farmers"

Well, tell us. What percentage of CAP spending goes to Frnce?

[DanS]

Re the headline thread topic, I guess I'm a little underwhelmed. Sure, $4 billion is a lot of money, but the total trade that flows between the US and Europe dwarfs $4 billion.

[Ned]

I know nothing about this Foreign Sales Corporation. Does it subsidize all US exports, some depending on competitive conditions abroad, or only some depending on the level of campaign contributions?

[Drogue]

From the Guardian, which I know is not reputable for opinions, being a leftist paper, but for facts and numbers is usually correct IMHO.

France is also the biggest beneficiary from CAP, receiving 9.2bn euros (£5.7bn), or 22% of total CAP

That answer your question? Maybe not most of it to France, but more than any other nation.

[Spiffor]

Since France is the most important agricultural producer in the EU, I don't have any problem with that. I have a problem with screwing the Poles for subsidies though

[TCO]

Are there local subsidies as well? At the national level?