Is state pride stupid?

[Stefu]

I've seen the other state flags. They suck too. Doesn't change the fact that Maryland's flag is just too crowded.

America should hire some consulting firm to redesign all state flags. I saw some site with suggestions for Georgia's flag. They all looked great and worthy of adoption. Especially the one with Ray Charles in it. You wouldn't believe how proper-flag-like a flag with a gigantic Ray Charles in it could be.

[GePap]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
GePap, once again let me say, it's Northereners just like you that caused the War, at least from the South's viewpoint.

I, for one, don't lump ALL NYC in with being like you.
There's not that much punk to go around.

Have you been here much Sloww? cause I am a freaking centrist compared to many New yorkers, and quiet and respectful compared to most

Don't worry Sloww, if another war starts, we will be glad to kick your asses and burn down your houses again! (while we rascally NYkers sympathize with the "slave-owners" cause we make our money bankrolling your immorality).

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Down with slavery, and traitors. State government/ state rights is just another way for corrupt politicians to skim money from the taxpayer.

[SlowwHand]

Keep showing your ignorance.
Again, 2 or 3 states had slavery by 1/3 of the farmers.
The rest, much, much, less.
Where did unions start, oh great humanist?

[GePap]

So its fine if only the few rich who control politics have slaves? Wow, such an enlightened view, oh virtuous one!

Where did unions start, oh great humanist?

Labor unions in general? I don't know, nor do I care. I do know where they are not welcomed though....

Come on Slowwly, don't worry, we don't feel any inclination to go burning down Southern cities again. After all, one round of "northern agression" seems to have taught you southerners the correct lesson.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Keep showing your ignorance.
Again, 2 or 3 states had slavery by 1/3 of the farmers.
The rest, much, much, less.
Where did unions start, oh great humanist?

Well, thats 1/3 too many. And more then 1/3 of the population believed that slavery was alright, seeing how many southerners showed up at the recruiting stations.

[Sava]

seeing how many southerners showed up at the recruiting stations.

They deeply believed in States' Rights.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

uh oh. LoA found some stats.

http://web.ask.com/redir?bpg=http%3a%2f%2fweb.ask.com%2fweb%3fq%3d%2522How%2bmany%2bslave%2bowners%2bwere%2bthere%2bin%2bthe%2bUnited%2bStates%253f%2522%26o%3d0&q=%22How+many+slave+owners+were+there+in+the+United+States%3f%22&u=http%3a%2f%2ftm.wc.ask.com%2fr%3ft%3dan%26s%3da%26uid%3d240a0b0c440a0b0c4%26sid%3d1387EE657DB440BE3%26qid%3d6ABE5981CEC0C048A3D921F62A610342%26io%3d0%26sv%3dza5cb0db0%26ask%3d%2522How%2bmany%2bslave%2bowners%2bwere%2bthere%2bin%2bthe%2bUnited%2bStates%253f%2522%26uip%3d40a0b0c4%26en%3dkb%26eo%3d0%26pt%3d%250d%250aWhere%2bcan%2bI%2blearn%2babout%2bU.S.%2bslavery%2btopic%2bthe%2bchronology%2bon%2bthe%2bhistory%2bof%2bslavery%2band%2bracism%253f%250d%250a%26ac%3d0%26qs%3d0%26pg%3d1%26ep%3d1%26kb_sn%3dJeeves%26kb_lhs%3d1151466%26kb_lhx%3d%250d%250aWhere%2bcan%2bI%2blearn%2babout%2bU.S.%2bslavery%2btopic%2bthe%2bchronology%2bon%2bthe%2bhistory%2bof%2bslavery%2band%2bracism%253f%250d%250a%26kb_ad%3d15%26kb_f%3d%26kb_lid%3d422401%26kb_iid%3d2253715%26kb_lit%3dTODO%26kb_stp%3d0%26u%3dhttp%3a%2f%2finnercity.org%2fholt%2fslavechron.html&s=a&bu=http%3a%2f%2finnercity.org%2fholt%2fslavechron.html

Ask jeeves isnt too bad

Total number of slaves in the Lower South : 2,312,352 (47% of total population).
Total number of slaves in the Upper South: 1,208758 (29% of total population).
Total number of slaves in the Border States: 432,586 (13% of total population).

Almost one-third of all Southern families owned slaves. In Mississippi and South Carolina it approached one half. The total number of slave owners was 385,000 (including, in Louisiana, some free Negroes). As for the number of slaves owned by each master, 88% held fewer than twenty, and nearly 50% held fewer than five. (A complete table on slave-owning percentages is given at the bottom of this page.)

That should refute the first point made by Slowhand.

and heres another cool fact

For comparison's sake, let it be noted that in the 1950's, only 2% of American families owned corporation stocks equal in value to the 1860 value of a single slave. Thus, slave ownership was much more widespread in the South than corporate investment was in 1950's America.

[CyberGnu]

Come on, real Texas patriots don't settle for mere flag waving! One of my students has a 20x15cm Texas flag tattoed on his back, and a ~12cm lone star on each bicep...

[Felch]

Does he have it measured in centimeters? Or do you mean and 8x6 inch Texan flag and 5 inch stars?

[CyberGnu]

Along those lines. Not exactly sure, I haven't taken a ruler to his back... Especially since I'd have to use a machete to get through the undergrowth first.

Apart from being texan he is a great guy, though

[Dis]

I did feel pride. We had a pretty good state with low tax rates. We'd look at California and laugh. But unfortunately my state is being invaded by Californians, and consequently is turning into a mini-california.

So I can't say my pride is as good as it used to be. Our state is pretty much like every other state now. Eventually they will get rid of prostitution because it is immoral.

[Ben Kenobi]

The Islanders won 5 in a row at one time.

Not much of a hockey fan, eh?

The only team to win 5 in a row are the beloved Habitants du Montreal.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That's wrong too. But there are bigger fish to fry at the moment.

Even if it is a violation (which it probably isn't), it is de minimis.

Oh, and GO JERSEY! Woo, Devils!