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  • And I immediately get another message:

    Originally posted by Hercules
    I got clarification elsewhere.

    But just to confirm you have Literature,?

    we are close to a deal.


    Yes, we are in possession of all techs that we proposed to be traded in our last email. Trading Literature will be a two-step process; we send you Aesthetics on the intial turn, then Literature on the following one.

    We are looking forward to your team's response with great interest. Many thanks,

    Sullla
    Team Realms Beyond


    I hope I'm not stepping on our diplomats' toes here, or giving away anything. (I always feel nervous doing these unofficial chats!) But this is BIG, and if Hercules wants to do some PM exchange and it gets us Metal Casting, well, so be it!

    On topic, geeze these guys are slow! You'd think the fact that we built the freakin' GREAT LIBRARY would tell them we have Literature! Our Cloak and Dagger program compared to their intelligence service is like setting lose an MLB pro in a teeball game.

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    • Well that was interesting:

      Hercules: Hi Sullla,

      Ok It is looking good.

      Sullla: Great! We're pleased to hear that. Would you like to confer further with your team, or should I make a trade proposal in-game?

      Hercules: I simply need to hear some feedback?

      Sullla: OK, no problem. Send us an email (or another PM) with the final team decision. I'm signing off for the night, have a pleasant evening.

      I hope it didn't seem like I was pushing too much there, wanted to see if we could get everything wrapped up on this turn. But nonetheless, it seems as though Templars are actually going to trade us Metal Casting! Can't say I was expecting that to happen when I logged onto the forums right before going to bed...

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      • Nice.

        On topic, geeze these guys are slow! You'd think the fact that we built the freakin' GREAT LIBRARY would tell them we have Literature! Our Cloak and Dagger program compared to their intelligence service is like setting lose an MLB pro in a teeball game.
        lol
        It sounds some teams might have to ask us what their city builds are.

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        • It's making me wonder if they even KNOW that we've built the GL!?

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          • Maybe they plan to agree to the trade to shoot for the wonder

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            • Positive noises, at least, but let's not go counting any chickens. They're so clueless that they don't even remember congratulating us on building the Great Library

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              • Ok, Templars finished their turn with 5 minutes on the clock. If we offered something to them, they did not take it.

                mh

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                • Thought they would pull something like this.
                  With 1 minute on the clock, I accepted Metal Casting for Aest&HBR!

                  Well done diplo corps.

                  So its Literature to Templars next turn and Machinery from Bananas, correct?

                  mh

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                  • Great!
                    Congruatulations to everybody who managed to pull this off, and thanks to Sulla for his persistence.

                    Yes, we can make the trade with Banana next turn.

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                    • Woot, way to go mh! I saw it on CivStats just before I logged in here. See, I told y'all we could get them to crack if we kept working at it.

                      On another note, I definitely do not like the diplo style the Templars are practicing. They never officially responded to our email(s), they dragged the turn timer out until the last possible minute to accept our deal... I mean, what was the point of all that skullduggery? Every transaction shows up on CivStats, so it's not like you can hide what you're doing.

                      Anyway, we got what we wanted. That's probably the last tech that we'll ever NEED to get from Templars. Theology is nice, but not critical, as it's on an entirely optional part of the tree. With the rate our respective economies are running, it's somewhat unlikely that we'll see the Templars holding an important monopoly tech over us again. We still have to remain nice to them until we find our what Imperio's going to do. After that, or if we get another NAP in place with Imperio? Well, let's just say that the Templars themselves turned down an extention of our NAP, which may have been short-sighted of them...

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                      • Originally posted by Sullla View Post
                        Well, let's just say that the Templars themselves turned down an extention of our NAP, which may have been short-sighted of them...
                        They may have chosen..... unwisely....

                        Great work m-h and Sullla and let me just echo the laaaaaaaaaaameness of such a move by Templars.

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                        • I echo the "nice work" comments directed to m_h and the diplo corps.

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                          • @Soooo - Agree.

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                            • Well done guys. For once, I'm happy to be proved wrong

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                              • One thing to clarify for me please, if by chance I had accepted the MC deal in T117 and not in the last second of T116, we would not be able to trade for Machinery this turn, correct?

                                If so, Templars action was deliberate.

                                mh

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