Team Info and Contacts - Templars

[ruff_hi]

draft email reply ...

Sir Aidun,

Greetings from Team RB. We appreciate you contacting us regarding this approach by PAL. You comments on tech trading within our continent and between continents all seem on point. The RB Team had previously asked me to approach you regarding a possible tech trade. Obviously you have concentrated on religious technologies and we would be interested in trading some of our development technologies (say, Fishing and Sailing) for some of these technologies.

Naturally, exact details still remain to be worked out as well as the need to wait for the in-game mechanics to allow tech trading (ie the discovery of Alphabet).

At this time, Team RB is not in a position to commit (or to consider committing) to an exclusive, long range, strategic tech trading agreement with The Templars. Not that you have explicitly suggested such but I felt it important to be explicit on this point. However, Team RB is very interested in explicit, short range, tactical tech trading agreements. Even to the extent of possibly sharing future Tech plans to facilitate Tech trading.

With regards to the PAL offer, did they discuss what techs they were seeking and what techs they were offering? Are they looking for a long term arrangement or a short term arrangement? We would encourage you to actively seek tactical trades as and when they arise (<-- Ruff: not sure on this last sentence).

On a slightly side issue, and as stated previously, Team RB would be interested in a State Visit by a Templar missionary as and when we can sign an open borders agreement.

Ruff
Your Voice to the Realms Beyond Team

[Sullla]

I think the message sounds good. Grammatically, the sentence highlighted is a little awkward, but can stand as written without needing correction.

Let's wait another 12 hours or so to let others comment, then go ahead and send it. They did say that time was a factor on this one.

[sooooo]

I quite like it.

[Zeviz]

I like this message. Thanks for your diplomatic efforts.

[mostly-harmless]

Message looks fine.
On the missionary issue: We would somehow have to pay for that missionary I imagine. Might be worth just to wait for natural spread, especially if we can help happiness with Hereditary Rule & Wine.

mh

[ruff_hi]

email sent - mh raises a good point. How many hammers does a missionary cost? Do we balance this with an Archer (or similar)? What advantage do they gain via us having their religion? What about if they pop a shrine - do we get some of the gold generated?

I think this could become a very messy issue if we try and balance it out.

[sooooo]

Let's see first if they agree to just give us a missionary. They are roleplaying religious knights, maybe they will. If not, they will suggest a price themselves I'm sure.

[Zeviz]

Considering that they are roleplaying knights templar, they should be pretty happy that their neighbors "see the light of true religion".

[sooooo]

We should probably give some thought to the Templars right now. We would like three things from them: religious techs, a missionary and open borders (for trade routes).

@Cloak and Dagger experts: Do we have an up-to-date list of Templars' technologies? This will allow us to plan trades with them. Note we will not be able to offer writing.

For the open borders, I don't see why they would object. We can say we built a road to connect to them via a river (when it is built, it's only 1 road tile according to Sullla's plan) and could suggest a no-scouting rule if they want.

For the missionary we've asked before but they probably have more important things to build right now. Maybe they'll give us one later on.

[ruff_hi]

just sent follow up email to our last communication ...

Sir Aidun,

Good Morning - how are you today? Just reaching out to follow up to our communication of the 4th. The RB Team would value your input into some of these items.

Regards

Ruff
Your Voice to the Realms Beyond Team

[Sullla]

Originally posted by sooooo
@Cloak and Dagger experts: Do we have an up-to-date list of Templars' technologies? This will allow us to plan trades with them. Note we will not be able to offer writing.

Begin with Mysticism and Agriculture
T1 Researching Polytheism
T11 Polytheism -> Masonry [now it makes sense!]
T21 Pop AH from hut, Masonry -> Monotheism
T34 Monotheism -> Mining
T40 Mining -> Wheel
T47 Wheel -> Bronze Working
T58 Bronze Working discovered
T64 Unknown tech discovered (best guess: Pottery or Priesthood)
T66 Hunting -> Archery
T70 Archery discovered

We have all but one of their techs pinned down. Best trade-bait opportunities are going to be Fishing, Sailing, and Iron Working. (The last would be really sweet to trade if it turns out that they lack iron!)

[ruff_hi]

send another follow up ...

Sir Aidun,

Are the Knights in seclusion during the Month of October? There are a number of items that we would like to discuss with you, not the least of which are the issues you mentioned in your last communication. Please let me know that you are getting this so that I can draft a longer email discussing the future of our continent.

Ruff
Your Voice to the Realms Beyond Team

Will start drafting a longer email to mention Open Borders and our NAP with Imperio.

[ruff_hi]

email from templars

Dear Ruff,

We are very sorry for the miscommunication. While our order has taken leave for two weeks week of fasting and prayer in Jerusalem, it seems your messenger has been knocking on our doors. It is however strictly forbidden for the members of our order to leave the Temple and interrupt their prayer, and thus your messenger was neither noticed, nor let in. We should of course have informed you of this holy tradition of our order. Now that our weeks of fasting and prayer are over, we have let him into our halls and would shortly give him a message to bring back to you.

Please do draft the longer email to inform us of your plans, ideas, thoughts and everything else you feel the need to share with us. We will await this message of yours beforte we will reply.


Yours faithfully,

Sir Aidun
Foreign Affairs Minister of the Knights Templar

reply ...

Sir Aidun,

Lucky I'd remembered to provide enough food to our messengers to cater for these sort of things. Message received. Please don't wait for our next email before replying - if you have housewives in your order, you will know that talking at gossip like levels actually results in a lot of knowledge transfer.

In other news, the RB team have a policy of rotating people and roles so that everyone gains experience in different areas. As such, I am being rotated out of intra-team communication.

Regards,

Ruff

[Zeviz]

I don't understand the line about housewives. Are you warning them not to say too much?

Also, I'd mention that Imperio signed a NAP with us in this message, because I am getting a feeling that Templars might be stalling for time, and the information about our NAP with Imperio might give them something to think about.

[Kylearan]

Hi,

Originally posted by ruff_hi
I am being rotated out of intra-team communication

I hope you mean inter- instead of intra-! We would really miss you otherwise.

-Kylearan