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  • I am in favor of an ingame peace for Drama offer.

    mh

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    • Originally posted by sunrise089 View Post
      Only in the short term. If we wreck the Templar stack in the south and can send all of our forces forward, how well will Templars survive? If nothing else we can pillage the heck out of them and should be able to force peace. The moment peace with Templars occurs Imperio's land is all sorts of vulnerable.
      I don't think Templars will go for peace: much better for them to make like Rabbits and whip their cities as heavily as possible in a series of desperate stands to hurt us as much as they can.

      And if Templars do make peace, that's all the more incentive for PAL to become yet more active in sponsoring Imperio.

      Anyways, I agree with M_H 100%...I prefer no message as long as the war is going well, and if we do send one, I'm fine for peace concessions like drama or a happy resource or something, but not the agreement to split up cities.
      The war is going well right now, but the time to offer concessions is from a position of strength ('we can afford to') than from a position of weakness (where the other side will just squeeze harder).

      The war situation won't look so rosy if Imperio lands Astro within the next dozen turns. And this alliance isn't about taking out Templars, it's about trying to get ourselves an ally who has the strength to take the brunt of PAL's counter-attack.

      Finally, if we decide to go it alone, and take on Imperio ourselves, we're certainly throwing Donovan to the wolfpack that is PAL which really doesn't sit well with me.

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      • Originally posted by Swiss Pauli View Post
        I don't think Templars will go for peace: much better for them to make like Rabbits and whip their cities as heavily as possible in a series of desperate stands to hurt us as much as they can.
        Granted, of course, that they remember to revolt to Slavery

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        • Imperios production centers are inland, so I don't think Astronomy in Imperios hands is a great threat to us. After all they are not really going for the war at the moment, building infrastructure all the time.

          For us it is important to grab as much land from Templars as possible. Ideally I want us to get all the way to Acre. This will allow us to support Banana better in the upcoming war with PAL.
          There is also a possibility to allow Banana to capture or settle a couple of cities in the Acre, Damaskus area. That will ensure they survive any PAL attack. It is not gamey if done as soon as possible and will be much appreciated by Donovan I believe.

          mh

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          • Sunrise, Swiss, Sullla, Dreylin, everyone who hasn't expressed an opinion yet: Should we offer a peace deal in-game for drama? Yes or no answers please since I cannot figure out if some of you are in favour or against it.

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            • Yes make the offer, the worst that happens is the reject it and make no comment. 10t will allow us enough time to fully break the back of Templars' forces.

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              • We should send a email making our offer for peace before sending it in game, else we risk their turnplayer rejecting it by default which isn't useful. As stated earlier, I'd prefer to offer a white peace, but I'm fine with offering Drama.

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                • I'm okay with offering it

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                  • Originally posted by sooooo View Post
                    Sunrise, Swiss, Sullla, Dreylin, everyone who hasn't expressed an opinion yet: Should we offer a peace deal in-game for drama? Yes or no answers please since I cannot figure out if some of you are in favour or against it.
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                    Originally posted by sunrise089 View Post
                    ...I'm fine for peace concessions like drama or a happy resource or something...

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                    • Someone has to log in and make the offer before Imperios time starts. Don't forget.

                      When I am back up tomorrow morning, I want to see the Templars stack next to PD, ready to be slaughtered, Charismatic alive, a 10 turns peace deal with IMperio in place and Banking being gifted to us from Banana.
                      Lets move people.

                      mh

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                      • Offered it in-game and sent this note to their email address:

                        Hola Imperio,

                        We have offered peace in-game. We will give you Drama.

                        Realms Beyond

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                        • I know I'm a bit a late, but I agree with the above offer. If that gets us on speaking terms, we might consider negotiating an alliance vs. PAL.
                          She said 'Your nose is running honey' I said 'Sorry but it's not'

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                          • blood is in the water, sharks are coming ...
                            Dear Realms.

                            We can ally with you for templars, if Constantinople, jerusalem, damascus and acre go for us.

                            Our terrain its in the middle of PAL and RB and u have many cities than ours. And pal ask to us if its possible pass troops for our terrain when he take out bananas. And u ask before for attack PAL. Dont want be the middle earth without nice benefits.

                            So what do u think?

                            kelben of imperio.
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                            • Very good! That's great. We won't let him have jerusalem but it is very nice that he is coming round.

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                              • Ha ha ha. What are they smoking?

                                Let's start with a peace first. We offer you Drama for peace now. Then we can discuss Templar cities. We offer you Damascus, Acre and the land south of Damascus.
                                Let's not get our hopes high here. They are more or less in a team with PAL. Given them rule of the complete eastern half of our continent is out of the question.

                                mh

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