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I'm far from wanting to argue, but start a new game, build 4 cities around your capital, garrison all but your capital with 2 units, with your capital undefended, stay peaceful and wait till you get sneak attacked. The odds that the AI goes straight towards your capital, have been observed very high, even though the AI has no chance to see it
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But it DOES have a chance to see whats in cities. Cities can be investigated with an embassy. No spys are needed. I was talking about troops in the field. I have seen it time and again that the AI doesn't know that I have blocked their passage till they reach visual range.The odds that the AI goes straight towards your capital, have been observed very high, even though the AI has no chance to see it
You have seen this too. Why else would AI settlers keep trying to go to places you have allready filled. They frequently go try to go to spot on the map that I have a city in at that. So they don't even see all the cities.Comment
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I was talking about early sneak attacks, without having embassies yet. But even later. It often happens, that with a large empire I disband my "inner" garrisons, from about 8-10 tiles from the border on, to save money in my republic/democracy. I got attacked a couple of times by nations, with whom I had RoP agreements. They always bypassed my garrisoned cities, going straight to the undefended. The first 2 times I let them go, thinking amused 'lets see where they want to go'. I soon learned, that the AI never goes with troups (far from settler shuttles) on your territory without purpose. Either it's in a war with somebody else (which you should know and in which case you are safe), or it's planning to attack you. Now I'm blocking these intruders and cancel the RoP as soon as I can, if I see this behavior.
C'mon, exploring lots of cities thru embassies is so expensive, impossible that the AI can afford it all the time. Just try to send a sneak attack force around with horsemen, as I described. You'll see.
Btw: I'm ok with that behavior, and far from ranting about the game for this reason.Comment
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This is one thing that is well-documented. The AI does know where your units are and aren't. Leave a city undefended, and they will go straight for it. That might piss certain players off (*coughcoraclecough*), but the reality is that it is easily used to the human player's advantage. The AI will bypass defended cities to get at undefended or weakly defended ones. Ok, fine. Know it, use it. Big invasion stacks can be diverted and whittled down in this fashion, thus saving your bacon.
It isn't a big deal to me. I don't deliberately exploit it (though, if hard-pressed enough... I might), although I'm aware of it. I'm no longer surprised when the AI goes on a long flank march in order to get at a weak point. And by the time they get there... it's no longer weak.
The AI is, all things considered, fine by me. There are always ways to improve it (I think the "offensive unit" flag for riflemen/infantry has resulted in the AI building too much of those units and not nearly enough Cavalry).
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It's been said before, but we have to acknowledge that as humans we have a very large edge, huge really, and that the current status of "AI" development (and c'mon, that's really not even what Civ3 has) is limited.
There are certain techniques / exploits that we, as players, need to avoid, in a willing state of denial, in order to play "fair" with the AI civs, and have enjoyable games.
Are there tweaks still needed? Certainly. Does Civ3 have the best AI developed thus far? Yes, AFAIK (Kudos, Soren!).
Hell, something just occurred to me... I am pretty sure that Cathy, Joan, Jerxes, the mean nasty man, and all the others, do NOT have a community website where they share tips on how to beat us crazy humans!!!!The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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Their mentor does. Soren lurks even when he doesn't post. He has definitly modified their behaviour based on what he has seen in the various forums.I am pretty sure that Cathy, Joan, Jerxes, the mean nasty man, and all the others, do NOT have a community website where they share tips on how to beat us crazy humans!!!!Comment
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(LOL)
Hammurabi: Look, the whole point of my super-duper Archers is to generate GLs as early possible... and now you tell me I only get one per elite? What's up with that? Guess I'll play builder... where's Sir Ralph?
Cathy: How about that guy Coracle? I'm gonna open a can of Cossack whup-ass on him next time, no matter what it takes!!!
Gandhi: And what about that damn Aeson? My Indian people are supposed to grow like weeds... I need some schmuck from the States showing me ICS?
Joan: What's wrong with pink, fer Chrissake? Je suis tres desole mais EAT ME!
Mao: I swear to God (oops, slip of the tongue), I will eradicate corruption in China, even if I have to hire Alexnm to figure it out!
Bismarck: Vell, I ham a big, mean, und nasty man. I vill take my revenge upon those who haff insulted me. By ze way, vat ze heck does "Not You Eezer" mean?
Caesar: And what in Hades is an M&M?
Elizabeth: We have determined that We can rule the seas, for a very short time. We have also determined that this is useless... off with Firaxian heads!!! It has been recommended to Us that We start with Brian... Oh. Never mind.
Shaka: You know, that Shaka II guy is pretty smart (and what a name!)... glad I don;t have to face off with him! I know, I'll cut your Internet access with an Impi!!
Cleo: You know, it seems like post-1.21f, I get stuck in jungles way too much. Also, I can't make up my mind: builder, warmonger, builder, warmonger...
Alexander: You know, every time I make it throught the Ancient Age, here comes that bonehead Txurce kicking my butt with Knights. Give a guy a break.
Lincoln: So if all the Americans play America, how come I don;t hear about tremendous F-15 successes?
Japan: Arrian ROCKS! All your base are belong to us!
Xerxes: I don't care what you say, I agree about the Spearman / Tank thing, but one of my Immortals can take out an MI, no problem. Whiners, just deal with it.
Montezuma: I've had it with being an ancient civ... I-iZ g01ng 1337. Juzt d0nut j00 zend Iz t0 M1ngapulc0... 33t iz t00 muchz lik Acapulc0!!The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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I think you have discovered the true reason France is pink. Some virgin warrior.Joan: What's wrong with pink, fer Chrissake? Je suis tres desole mais EAT ME!Comment
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(More LOL... the Firaxians join in...)
Soren: Footsloggers rule!!!
Dan: Do they wear sombreros?
Mike: I'll check on that...
Nick: But do they look good?
Rex & Jason: What should we about that in the 'pedia?
Jeff: Show me the money!!
Sid: But do they play golf?The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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Great one Theseus!!!
That was simply great
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The trick is the doing something else." — Leonardo da Vinci
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Um... Mao... you better get rid of your dyslexia before I hire rdopos, I mean Setheus, to kick your sorry behind using a warrior-cavalry-scout mixed army!!! buh-bye!Originally posted by Theseus
Mao: I swear to God (oops, slip of the tongue), I will eradicate corruption in China, even if I have to hire Alexnm to figure it out!
(Nice post, Theseus, LOL)Comment
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Haha
Isn't there an Alexnm too? Did I mix you guys up? Sorry!!
And, yes, "dopos" is a longstanding insult name...The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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Ethelred,
You are correct, of course... inspired me to write the second post, and maybe give Firaxians a chuckle.The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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I guess I am a little predictable...Originally posted by alexman
1) a warrior-cavalry-scout mixed army!!! 2) buh-bye!The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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Thanks Theseus, for the big laugh in the morning... I knew I'll miss something when I went to bed last night. 
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