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  • Oh RP and GoW was the most Logical conclusion, I agree whole heartedly.

    Logic doesn't mean much when facing human opponents, though, as is painfully obvious by now.
    One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
    You're wierd. - Krill

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    • Originally posted by GhengisFarb
      Fine then let their be a feud between us. Whenever one my kin sees one of your kin blood with flow!
      Yea, sure, whatever.

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      • Take it easy Sir Ralph, it's good ol' GiggisFart.
        "Close your eyes, for your eyes will only tell the truth,
        And the truth isn't what you want to see,
        Close your eyes, and let music set you free..."
        - Phantom of the Opera

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        • Originally posted by Arrian
          That's the other part I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out why they caved. EDIT: to clarify - I didn't understand going through the effort of putting together then landing force, complete with settler (settlers still being a pretty big deal at that time), and then leave w/o a fight. There was some compensation involved, IIRC, for Port Isolation, but it still doesn't make sense to me.
          -Arrian
          You mean a couple of horsemen to land on GS shores right beside an undefended city?
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          • Originally posted by Arrian
            I know, Ghengis. DAR = During Action Report.
            We aren't in the middle of 3000 BC, it as already happened so its an AFTER Action Review.

            Originally posted by Arrian
            Well, we looked at the map and saw GoW & RP hitting ND. Didn't happen, did it?
            That's what we saw, but the whole breakdown and generation of hostilities over that scouting/trade deal caused to make a decision on who we felt was the more reliable ally.

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            • I thought they paid for that.
              And it didn't turn out to be so undefended, did it?
              "Close your eyes, for your eyes will only tell the truth,
              And the truth isn't what you want to see,
              Close your eyes, and let music set you free..."
              - Phantom of the Opera

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              • You mean a couple of horsemen to land on GS shores right beside an undefended city?
                It only looked undefended. I have some artifacts from those two horse regiments lying around somewhere in Arashi...

                -Arrian
                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                • Hilarious interview, Vondrack.
                  The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

                  Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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                  • [Roleplay voice] (hmm... kinda ironic as I type that...)
                    So now you keep the dead corpse of my son as a "sideshow" in one of your cities?!?!?! I SPIT in your general direction! Give these "artifacts" back at once!!!
                    [/Roleplay voice]

                    Did you guys really get a GL from attacking Mad King Donegeal?
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                    • No, I think that was some poetic license on my part a while back. It just seemed to fit, given that we used the GL on Sun Tzu and ST is Chinese. The GL came from the death of a Voxian unit.

                      Vondrack! That was good. Nathan isn't that much like Spock, though

                      -Arrian
                      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                      • I don't see an interview by vondrack.
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                        • SPIN, nye.
                          One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
                          You're wierd. - Krill

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                          • Guys... I posted an interview made by someone else... praise Crystal Clear, whoever it is, not me...

                            I wish I had this much talent to make things funny...

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                            • we wish you did too...
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                              • For the record...

                                I have found negotiations with Gathering Storm incredibly easy. There are typically multiple GS people online and in chat much of the time and it has been a breeze over the past month to conduct negotiations with them about getting invovled in the Bobian War and all of the joint work done since then.

                                All this mess about Gathering Storm being hard to negotiate is hogwash. Yes they operate on the basis of consenses and I had to wait around while they approved each stage of negotiations sometimes, but being patient doesn't hurt THAT much.

                                The team that's been hard to negotiate with because they are infrequently online in chat is Legoland. I really like Legoland and I was the RP ambassador to them for much of our early history when we had spectacular relations (with the two leaders of the DIA in the SPDG doing the talking between the teams, it helped relations), but I have to admit it's been much harder since I got back from several months absense.

                                The main reason why GS was given such a signficant presence on Bob, aside from the fact that Legoland wouldn't accept our cities regardless, was that it's just been harder to conduct negotiations with Legoland when the saves are going by at one every 2-3 days with major changes in events and it's been difficult to find someone from Lego in chat during that timespan. If Legoland had pursued more of a supportive role with us, we certainly wouldn't have been in such a corner where we felt so forced to give Gathering Storm anything and everything they wanted in return for aid.

                                We got lucky that Gathering Storm decided to be so incredibly gracious for having the upper hand, but teams other than Gathering Storm could certainly have taken advantage of us being backed into a corner with nowhere else to turn, a position which GoW and ND put us in to the potential advantage of non-Bobian civs.

                                That said, this situation is certainly far from over. It's still entirely possible for various civs to gain some level of advantage over the other Bobian civs from our open willingness to provide it.
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